Bofors guns ?

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:28 am

There is the 3rd wave of Zeros (Kamakaze ) planes coming in. We don't have any Navy guns to shoot 'em down. The Quad 40 mm Bofors guns will do the job.
Oh... but none have been made in 1/18 scale . Is there a need for them ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/BOFORS-40MM-AA-GUN- ... .m20.l1116

http://www.ussslater.org/weapons/40mm.html

B-29 · Post by **B-29** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:51 am

pickelhaube wrote:There is the 3rd wave of Zeros (Kamakaze ) planes coming in. We don't have any Navy guns to shoot 'em down. The Quad 40 mm Bofors guns will do the job.
Oh... but none have been made. Is there a need for them ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/BOFORS-40MM-AA-GUN- ... .m20.l1116

http://www.ussslater.org/weapons/40mm.html

That would awesome! Then can you build us a battleship to mount them to?

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:57 am

B-29 wrote:
pickelhaube wrote:There is the 3rd wave of Zeros (Kamakaze ) planes coming in. We don't have any Navy guns to shoot 'em down. The Quad 40 mm Bofors guns will do the job.
Oh... but none have been made. Is there a need for them ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/BOFORS-40MM-AA-GUN- ... .m20.l1116

http://www.ussslater.org/weapons/40mm.html
That would awesome! Then can you build us a battleship to mount them to?

Can you imagine the shipping price ? !!! It would be more than the model itself

popeye357 · Post by **popeye357** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:19 am

Yes, its in demand!!

ExC17load · Post by **ExC17load** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:48 pm

I think it would be awesome! I always liked watching them on the Spectres. Quite the weapon, like the 'Ma Deuce', quality never gets old or goes out of style, just keeps taking down the bad guys.

ExC17load · Post by **ExC17load** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:51 pm

The last post got me thinking. I think a 1 18 scale AC-130 Spectre would be awesome. I can picture it hanging from my ceiling banked at an angle. If ya gotta dream, dream big I say. Any other thoughts?

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:56 pm

Quad 50s were installed on American carriers late in the war. Basically, they tried to cram as much firepower as possible to combat kamikazes, but they ran out of space for 40mms and 20mms.

A quad 40mm mount would look awesome.

Post by **aferguson** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:31 pm

do you have any pictures of a quad 50 on a carrier?

grockwood · Post by **grockwood** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:55 pm

My first reaction was why not make a twin Bofors setup and then mont them on the 21st XD M41. But then I realized that it would take a lot of work on the hull to make the M42 Duster out of the M41.

popeye357 · Post by **popeye357** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:17 pm

If there was an M5 we could mate it with the Quad .50!!!!

hotrodrock · Post by **hotrodrock** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:15 pm

I have one of these (or something very similirar) in 1/6 scale that GI Joe made years ago. Its in storage somewhere (imagine that), haven't seen it in years.

Heres one. http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-Joe-Navy-Gunner- ... dZViewItem

jlspec · Post by **jlspec** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:53 pm

I have that GI Joe set in the garage somewhere. But I would rather have a 1/18 version

hotrodrock wrote:I have one of these (or something very similirar) in 1/6 scale that GI Joe made years ago. Its in storage somewhere (imagine that), haven't seen it in years.

Heres one. http://cgi.ebay.com/GI-Joe-Navy-Gunner- ... dZViewItem

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:03 pm

What's with all these fine 1/6 stuff in the garage?

I have two and they are on guard for any Zeros wondering into my AO.

Actually, a single 40MM makes a great towed AA gun (anybody remember Sgt. Frank Tree {Dan Aykroyd} explaining its use in "1941"???). The same gun was mounted on some WW2 Half-tracks.

TTT

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:11 am

And now some 1/1 guns at the 2003 Alameda MPVA Convention.

This old guy kept getting in my pictures.

This gun was for sale but we didn't buy it because I didn't want to tow it back to S.I. with my sons brand new Avalanche.

TTT

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:41 am

PH, I think the single mount 40MM would be more sellable for you.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:04 am

aferguson wrote:do you have any pictures of a quad 50 on a carrier?

I don't think there's a whole lot of pictures of them, since they were only installed on 2 Essex-class carriers, and an light/escort carrier (forgot which type).

Here's a pic I found of a quad mount on U.S.S. Lexington. Pic was probably taken after Lexington's last refit, because of the dual 20mm guns.

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:58 am

i read somewhere it was an experimental fitting on the Lexington but wasn't proceeded with on other carriers, no reasons given....do you know the names of any other carriers that had the quad 50 mount? Lexington of course was way before the kamikaze threats appeared.

Perhaps a use for the quad trailer (sans the trailer).

Razor17019 · Post by **Razor17019** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:02 am

My Grandpa was a loader on a 40mm Bofors aboard his LST in WWII.
Awesome looking gun upclose.

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:19 am

aferguson wrote:i read somewhere it was an experimental fitting on the Lexington but wasn't proceeded with on other carriers, no reasons given....do you know the names of any other carriers that had the quad 50 mount? Lexington of course was way before the kamikaze threats appeared.

Perhaps a use for the quad trailer (sans the trailer).

now only need the 1:18 Lexington

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:40 am

Can't find any info on the quad .50 used on carriers in WW2. Extensive mention of .50 cal being used on carriers but they don't refer to the quad 50.

All carriers started WW2 with 40mm, 20mm, 1.1 quads and .50 cals. Every time the carriers came into Pearl or SFO, their AA divisions were updated with the favorite of the day. Twin .20mms replaced the quad 1.1's and quad 40mm's replaced dozens of .50 cals. This went on all through the war.

Light carriers, and "Jeep" carriers carried 20mm and .50 cals by the dozens throughout the war. Can't find any mention of quads. If it wasn't for GooglyD's very clear pic on the Lex, I'd say their existence was in doubt because so many single .50 cals on big ships were constantly being replaced by the heavier 20mm twins. I tend to think that the quad .50 in the pic was an test and would have been replaced by the more powerful 20mm.

TTT

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:20 pm

the quads were a test but they wouldn't have been replaced with larger guns as they wouldn't fit....that was the idea behind using the small quad turrets.

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:35 pm

from mising-lynx forum:

"By 1945 the single mount 20mm was shown to be somewhat lacking in bringing down the suicide aircraft. Twin 20's were replacing them during yard periods. Fitting four Hispano aircraft type guns to the army mount was considered. Instead the navy used the typical Maxon quad .50. Six mounts were installed on the Wasp and six on the Lexington, each replacing a single mount 20mm. The Cape Gloucester recieved four quad .50's. Don't know if any were credited with any kills."

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:33 pm

Found another pic from the Lex in 1945. The caption of this pic and the pic GooglyD posted says "Army Quad Mark 31" but they look to be Maxon M45 Quad mounts.

Plenty of room for a dual 20mm if they wanted an option.

Now, we just need a section of the Lex.

TTT

Post by **aferguson** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:20 pm

ExC17load: would you settle for a 1/18-ish AC-119?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-Fairchild-C-11 ... dZViewItem

It's more like 1/22 scale than 1/18 but almost 4 feet long and 5 foot in span. I have one waiting to be painted one day.

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