Switch to 1/16 or stay with 1/18 armour?

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:15 pm

With recent events looking pretty gloomy for 21c and the sputtering releases for 1/18 armour over the years, there has been some talk recently of people switching to collecting 1/16 armour. So i'm curious as to how many are seriously thinking about it, have done it, would never do it etc.

Hence this poll.

exether_mega · Post by **exether_mega** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:24 pm

never do it ! It's 1/18 or nothing !

phil

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:26 pm

I'm considering it for armor not available in 1/18 like a KT or Stug. I wouldn't want to mix Shermans, Tigers, Panthers or the like 1/16 with 1/18.

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:30 pm

[+] > Already have. Liked them for a couple of years now. *

* So go ahead and SWITCH ,.. or do what I do ,.. mix & match.

What could it really hurt ?

* "It's no BIG freakin' deal". Except the figures and AC ofcourse. *

Mitch v MG

tosborne3 · Post by **tosborne3** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:12 pm

I like the 1/16th stuff, but WOW, it's way to expensive for my wallet.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:15 pm

tosborne3 wrote:I like the 1/16th stuff, but WOW, it's way to expensive for my wallet.

Check out this thread

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MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:21 pm

* "Pimp out your wife or girlfriend".

Mitch v MG

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:24 pm

I'm not going to completely give up collecting XD armor, and I'll almost certainly pick up the 88mm when it comes, and maybe the KT as well, but for me the 1/16 RC armor has added a whole new dimension to my hobby, and a very diverse and satisfying one at that.

tosborne3 · Post by **tosborne3** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:47 pm

Pimping...

Maybey I can paint my XD tiger1 purple and give it chrome treads. They see me rollin rollin...they hatin

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:53 pm

Pimping... Maybey I can paint my XD tiger1 purple

Pimp my tank eh...??? LOL

Actually, I think somebody at RCU once posted pics of a 1/16th Panther or something that they painted hot pink... complete with a little Pink Panther commander figure...LOL...cute, but honestly... I don't think I would ever do it..

Panther F · Post by **Panther F** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:00 pm

Why not both? You'll never have everything in one scale!

Bring on that HL Elefant!

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:04 pm

I'm considering it. To me, the size thing does not seem to work for some tanks that are a bit smaller in real life. However, for something that is already big, like a Kingtiger, 1:16 might be the way to go. 1:18 armor just really is not reliable these days.

tosborne3 · Post by **tosborne3** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:55 pm

I would definatly collect 1/16 as well as my beloved XD if the price was right.

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:08 pm

I will probably mix and match--I already do, anyway, with a 1/16 RC Pershing that I have had for a couple years. As far as I am concerned, if it's a subject I really want and it's not out of my price range (which is why I don't have a 1/6 Tiger under glass as a coffee table), I will get it, regardless of scale. Ideally in a scale I already collect, or at close enough, but hell, I broke down and bought the FOV 1/32 Jagdpanther because it was the largest version I could find in my price range (and almost as expensive as an XD version would run, if I recall correctly).

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:03 pm

I have 3 FOV King Tigers and 1 Wittman tiger with a T-34/85 thrown in. All 1/16 scale. That is roughly about $1485 worth of stuff. The avarage price of 1/18 is about $60 to $120 now. So my money will be on 1/18 stuff. I think that I will pass on the new 1/16 FOV Sherman. I can't see paying that much for a Shermy. Most of the 1/16 stuff out now you have to build. Isn't that the allure of 1/18 scale ? You don't have to build it.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:09 pm

Actually, most of the the 1/16th tanks now are RC, and pre-painted and pre-built. The price ranges from $70-$150. The only difference between the pricier ones and the cheaper ones is that the pricier ones comes with better eletronics and/or metal tracks.

But if you just want a static model and don't particularly into the RC aspect of the hobby, then those cheaper ones are good buys.

Although the pricier Tamiya kits, you still have to build.

smittyrob64 · Post by **smittyrob64** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:32 pm

and whichever ones you choose, none come with rubber tracks

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:59 pm

Most everything I have is 1:18, and have collected this scale for years. Whether it's Gi Joe, Star Wars, Ultimate Soldier or BBI. I can't change now and expect to even come close to the amount of toys in this scale.

I have strayed into the 1:32 arena because it's the next prolific for aircraft and armor, and is probably the future of most of the 21'st, BBI offerings.

ARMY GROUP 1 · Post by **ARMY GROUP 1** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:48 am

The range of 1/16 tanks seems to be expanding quickly and I am starting to make my 1/18 figures seemingly ok against them, which they are not quite. I realized along time ago to bring my 1/18 vehicles alive you need the figures all over them, so I am trying to convince myself they fit in with 1/16, which means I will start to collect them, but no longer as a army builder due to the size. Stricting one of each, not like the 40 halftracks I have in 1/18 etc.

MilitaryMike23 · Post by **MilitaryMike23** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:19 am

does anyone have pictures of the 1:18th infantry with 1:16th tanks and 1:16th tanks next to 1:18th tanks ... im trying to get a good sense of how much things are off as i have no 1:16th but would like to buy a few items

MilitaryMike23 · Post by **MilitaryMike23** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:20 am

does anyone have pictures of the 1:18th infantry with 1:16th tanks and 1:16th tanks next to 1:18th tanks ... im trying to get a good sense of how much things are off as i have no 1:16th but would like to buy a few items

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:49 am

MilitaryMike23 wrote:does anyone have pictures of the 1:18th infantry with 1:16th tanks and 1:16th tanks next to 1:18th tanks ... im trying to get a good sense of how much things are off as i have no 1:16th but would like to buy a few items

Mike, here a few pics for you.... The first two show Dragon 1/18 figures on a WSN 1/16 T-34/85 Russian tank, but figures from 21C or BBI will work just fine as well. Most people here agree that 1/18 figures and accessories go quite well with 1/16 vehicles. The last pic shows the 1/16 T-34 next to an XD Panzer IV, ok.. the T-34/85 is bigger no doubt, but it was a slightly larger tank in real life anyways, and I think the picture illustrates that the size difference is not so glaring that you couldn't display them in a scene together. Most people agree where you run into big problems of size is when trying to display vehicles of the same type together in both scales, ie. 1/16 Tiger and XD Tiger. Hope you find the pics useful.

Click the image to enlarge....

MilitaryMike23 · Post by **MilitaryMike23** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:01 am

thank you very much!

MilitaryMike23 · Post by **MilitaryMike23** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:06 am

also where are sites that i can buy the items from? sites that people have used ofcourse ... thanks in advance

Post by **aferguson** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:30 am

the last picture of the t-34 and panzer iv is a bit deceptive. I know Ostketten isn't trying to be tricky, it's just the nature of photographs.

The T-34 is further from the camera and looks smaller than it is. The 1/16 T-34 is about the same size as the xd panther and quite a bit larger looking than the panzer iv, in person. If you're somewhat knowledgeable as to the relative sizes of tanks, it will look pretty glaring.

It's for this reason i am thinking of switching entirely to 1/16 tanks, as i find that mixing 1/16 tanks with 1/18 tanks doesn't work very well, especially when you compare tanks that should be of similar size (this is very much like trying to fit a 1/16 Tiger witn a 1/18 Tiger). As an example, the 1/16 stug III will be larger and quite a bit wider than the 1/18 panzer IV, which was in reality and noticeably bigger vehicle than the stug.

Interestingly, the 1/18 figures work pretty well, largely in part to the fact that most of these figures are a bit on the big side of 1/18 anyway. Also, things like halftracks, artillery (ie the Pak), planes etc also look fine with 1/16 tanks, due to the fact there isn't a strong sense of the relative sizes between these items.

So, the bottom line is, i find that 1/16 tanks just don't go well with 1/18 tanks, but do fit pretty well with everything else, which as i said is why i'm seriously considering switching. It would be ideal to use 1/18 tanks only, of course, but since there is not very many of them and the situation is not likely to improve, using 1/16 tanks instead isn't all that bad of an option.

This is all just my personal opinion of course.....i'm sure many will disagree with me.

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