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Rudel's winter Stuka

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:45 am
by pickelhaube
Hey Guys,
I need some info. I am looking for some paint jobs on the Stuka. Here is a paint job that a guy did on a Hasagawa 1/48 Stuka.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/G ... ce/00.shtm

It looks like Rudels last livery but done in a kind of spider web winter camo. It is way cool looking. Is this a fantasy paint job or authentic?

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:03 am
by pickelhaube
I think that I found my boys info here.

http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Stuka/Rudel/rudel.htm

This is one cool paint shceme. :D

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:03 am
by hworth18
Just keep in mind that the winter white wash as shown in the actual pic was applied by a brush or mops, so it is a hard edge pattern, not the cool airbrushed one as seen on the model. :wink:

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:30 pm
by pickelhaube
hworth18 wrote:Just keep in mind that the winter white wash as shown in the actual pic was applied by a brush or mops, so it is a hard edge pattern, not the cool airbrushed one as seen on the model. :wink:
This does bring up a good point. The airbrushed version looks real good and the hand painted looks kind of rough. Although more historical accuracy aside which would look better ? The more refined airbrushed or historicaly accurate field hand painted? This is open for debate . What do you guys think?

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:13 pm
by olifant
I love the airbrushed look and would go that route if I was modifying a Stuka to a late war version. And if I had the skill to wield my airbrush properly... :roll:

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:24 pm
by hworth18
The airbrushed version looks much better, but at the beginning of this thread you were asking for accuracy.. With winterwash though, if you weather the rest of the plane and give it a worn/flown look, you could probably get away with the airbrush look as the wash would fade and soften over time. :wink:

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:03 pm
by Dauntless
So was the "wash" something they could remove easily or washed off when the weather got warm? I have always been curious about that.
The Russians did the white wash too. I wonder about that also.
It would make sense as the added weight of painting over it again wouldn't be logical.

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:23 pm
by pickelhaube
Dauntless wrote:So was the "wash" something they could remove easily or washed off when the weather got warm? I have always been curious about that.
The Russians did the white wash too. I wonder about that also.
It would make sense as the added weight of painting over it again wouldn't be logical.

I think that the paint was water soluable and it almost wore off by itself.

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:31 am
by hworth18
pickelhaube wrote: I think that the paint was water soluable and it almost wore off by itself.
Pickelhaube is correct, the whitewash was just that, a water based paintcoating that would wear off by itself over time and weather.

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:32 am
by Dauntless
Thanks guys

I like that link you put up picklehaube. It's great to get the history of Rudel.

I already have the 21st Winter Stuka, so I don't think I would be into making another.

It's good to know the kind of paint they used for winter camo, and how it wears off like that.
I have an extra Langley P-40 I want to turn into a winter Russian version. I think it would be cool.
I've seen somebody else do it, and put it up on ebay.
I just want one for myself.