21C King Tiger discussion

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:17 am

Ok guys- I have just a couple minor updates on the 1:18 King Tiger today. I have to be just a little bit careful here because I can't betray the official updates that will be made thru AREA-21 in the coming weeks... But that said, I think about my friends here on the forum and I know how much you guys love to get info a little bit early so I will try to tell you some of what I most recently learned about the KT!

21C was in China last week for Toyfair or some big toy show... I spoke to members of 21C management in regards to the show. One specific point of interest at that show was the King Tiger. The story goes like this... The V.P. saw a 1:18 King Tiger on display and was totally shocked by it's overall mass and impressive size! The question was asked, "is this thing the real deal or a model master or what!" -The reply came back that it was the actual product and that it was all but pretty much finished, with only a few minor tweeks to some detials that were not shown on the sample.

The V.P. told me that it was better than expected seeing it in person. I also recently learned that a new size box was required & art was being put together for it's initial release. It remains to be seen if this points to a special edition box art or if it simply means the signal of the final mass retail box. But it does indicate that if the box is being ordered up than the tank is quite close to it's final release.

I hope to get more info and hopefully more pictures for AREA-21 in the weeks to come. I just thought you guys might like to get that little bit of news ouside of the norm.

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:26 am

[+] > Thanks for the update "tko211" ,.. we're all eagerly waiting for it's release. *

Mitch v MG

kevrut · Post by **kevrut** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:37 am

Sounds good.

Thanks TKO.

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:43 am

Yes

I am ready. I guess I can stop holding my breath. I have been cheating doing so.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:46 am

Oh boy goody.

exether_mega · Post by **exether_mega** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:52 am

Thanks for the news TKO

phil

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:52 am

[+] > ... and here's just a pic for reference. *

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[+] > By courtesy of Mitch v MG

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:06 pm

Sounds good! I'm eagerly awaiting this release

Yoxford · Post by **Yoxford** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:24 pm

Thank you for the update TKO.

As I said before, there are details on this new 21st Century release that are sadly missing from my 1/16 FOV extreme metal KT.

Well done!

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:40 pm

So I'm guessing that we'll see this bad boy within 2-3 months?

(Hopefully!)

Great!

PS: Can you ask them to remove that German cross?

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:41 pm

[+] > What features are missing that you're referring to Mark ? ... Just curious myself. *

Mitch vMG

Fitzystigertank · Post by **Fitzystigertank** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:54 pm

sounds good but any more info on the 88? i keep looking at the pic and can't wait to have this part of my collection.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:59 pm

Oh, if its not too late, could you ask them to modify these too? It makes this Tiger reallllyyy toy-like from behind.

Yoxford · Post by **Yoxford** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:05 pm

Keep in mind, the Extreme Metal King Tiger as cool as it is, was FOV's first venture into big scale and as we have seen with the latest 1/16 Wittmann Tiger 1's and soon the 1/16 Sherman, details have become much sharper.

But between the two from the early photos from 21st Century, the Mg mount is much better, the front mud flaps are correct in scale and not "over weathered" as are also the side skirts, the hinges on the rear turret hatch are correct and detailed (not so on FOV) and 21st century has the left side track cable, and the tools look less toy like.

The fixes so far that I see needed on the 21st (hatch handles, headlight cable, etc) will be a breeze....

also if you go back and look at the old pics from 21st century you can see the engine hatch has working hinges...could there be Maybach in there????

Yoxford · Post by **Yoxford** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:09 pm

GooglyDoogly hit that one!

dremmel down the rear mud flaps....and thicken up the rear tow ears with sqadron putty

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:31 pm

TKO:

Was the show the "Hong Kong Toys & Games For 2008" show?

Had a report of the disapointing showing of 1/6 by other manufacturers at the show, I'm suprised they didn't notice the KT. Even guys from the "Dark Side" notice nice 1/18.

Looking forward to the KT.

Will the fact that the box is oversized for 1/18 be a hinder for 21C's brick & mortar stores?

Sure wish 21C would experiment and crank up the "21C Store" with this bad boy and sell to us direct.

TTT

Jagdpanther · Post by **Jagdpanther** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:21 pm

Thanks for the update !

Cant wait.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:26 pm

What I would like to know is whether this is going to available at TRU stores or not. My apologies if this has already been discussed...

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:37 pm

Thanks for the update TKO.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:58 pm

Yoxford wrote:GooglyDoogly hit that one!

dremmel down the rear mud flaps....and thicken up the rear tow ears with sqadron putty

I was thinking about doing that too, but I'm horrible when it comes to putty...

Maybe I can find a plastruct with the proper thickness and trace the shape and cut it.

The part of the hull sides that protrudes at the rear needs to be thickened too. It makes the Tiger II look like it has paper-thin armor.

tosborne3 · Post by **tosborne3** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:01 pm

WOW!!! Thanks TKO, as always you keep us well informed.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:02 pm

MG-42 wrote:[+] > ... and here's just a pic for reference. *

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[+] > By courtesy of Mitch v MG

I don't think that's the actual 1/18 King Tiger. It's probably a 1/35 model kit to show their paint master, or something.

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:03 pm

[+] > ........... so ?

Mitch v MG

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:12 pm

MG-42 wrote:[+] > ........... so ?

Mitch v MG

Because it would be AWESOME if the actual product actually looks like that.

Back in the day, I get excited every time 21st releases a "completed" pic of a certain product, and was always dazzled by the details and accuracy.

Then I buy the actual product and I get a little bit disappointed that they showed me a highly-detailed master, and not the actual product they are producing.

That's why I love the old 21st progress pics of their King Tiger. At least I know that's what I'm actually gonna be getting.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:39 pm

Thanks Zach for the updates!! This should be something quite special!!!

-Ski

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