ITS A SKYRAIDER!!!

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Post by thetatau87 » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:40 am

You can see the armor shields folded back against the cowl in this pic.

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I hope AT makes them retractable or molds them in the folded position, but from the pics they look to be extended and blocking the engine detail from view.

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Post by VMF115 » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:04 am

thetatau87 wrote:You can see the armor shields folded back against the cowl in this pic.

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I hope AT makes them retractable or molds them in the folded position, but from the pics they look to be extended and blocking the engine detail from view.
I agree I hope AT makes them retractable, or has a removable cowl, I think many would want to have that option.

But for the most part the pics of the A-1 1:1 scale I have seen on the Internet have shown it in the open position, folded.
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Post by JohnLumley » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:56 am

Those movable shields are there to control the amount of cooling air that enters the engine cowling. The cylinder head temperature can be controlled by opening or closing these shields.

They are open for take off and climb.
They are closed for startup, warm up, low power descents & ground storage.
One hundred and fifty three - 1:18 scale aircraft on the ceiling looks :shock: damn good!

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Post by VMF115 » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:43 am

JohnLumley wrote:Those movable shields are there to control the amount of cooling air that enters the engine cowling. The cylinder head temperature can be controlled by opening or closing these shields.

They are open for take off and climb.
They are closed for startup, warm up, low power descents & ground storage.
I think the production version of AT A-1 should be made in the open position if its to expensive to make them adjustable.
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Post by p51 » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:45 pm

Plane Nuts wrote:p51: Who is piloting that Marine Skyraider?
His name, as we all know him, is 'Skyraider Bob'. He he :-D

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Post by Jason of Admiral Toys » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:26 pm

I wanted to address the question regarding the cowl flaps on the Skyraider. The cowl flaps on the outside and back of the cowling are interconnected. That means if the cowl flaps are closed the inside of the cowling would also be closed. The Skyraider very rarely flew with the cowl open. The scoop by the cockpit is all the air the engine needed for proper function.

Therefore if we had the cowling open, both at the front and back, this would be in a configuration that the Skyraider was in only on the ground. If you want it to look like it is flying then the cowlings would be closed. My father, who flew the Skyraider, explained that a closed cowling would be the most appropriate model. It is more versatile this way.

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Post by Sabrefan » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:34 pm

Thanks Jason. I have not been this excited about the release of a model as much as I am for this one. This is going to be one awesome plane. :D :D :D
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Post by chunks » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:35 pm

Jason of Admiral Toys wrote:I wanted to address the question regarding the cowl flaps on the Skyraider. The cowl flaps on the outside and back of the cowling are interconnected. That means if the cowl flaps are closed the inside of the cowling would also be closed. The Skyraider very rarely flew with the cowl open. The scoop by the cockpit is all the air the engine needed for proper function.

Therefore if we had the cowling open, both at the front and back, this would be in a configuration that the Skyraider was in only on the ground. If you want it to look like it is flying then the cowlings would be closed. My father, who flew the Skyraider, explained that a closed cowling would be the most appropriate model. It is more versatile this way.

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Thanks Jason, I appreciate your response. Sigh, many times it's worth questioning one's own history, in this case reading about soviet WWII a/c and my currant need for engine warmup.
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Post by VMF115 » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:34 pm

Thanks Jason for explaining that to us, is there any way to give the buyer the option of having an open cowl? like haveing an extra cowling with out the cowl flaps in the close postion?
Any way thanks the A-1 looks great! 8)
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Post by Birddog » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:46 pm

From Admiral Toys in New York City at the 2007 Toy Fair........

Keep your eyes to the skies, the AD-1 Skyraider!!!!!!!

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Now get your cameras ready for this beautiful group shot....

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Hope you guys enjoy!!!!
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Post by VMF115 » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:49 pm

here are the pics from Birddog's

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That thing is Huge!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!!!1

WOOOOOOOW :shock: :shock:
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Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Your guns! Ack, ack, ack, ack, ack!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: [fires his airplane's guns] AHHHH!

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Post by Sabrefan » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:51 pm

AWESOME! Thanks for the pictures. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by Birddog » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:52 pm

Got the pictures to work instead of posting a link..........:D
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Post by Sabrefan » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:52 pm

Love those dive brakes! :lol:
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Post by VMF115 » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:52 pm

Sabrefan wrote:AWESOME! Thanks for the pictures. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Yes Thank you for the Pics WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love the detail of the landing gear. 8)
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Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
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Captain Wild Bill Kelso: [fires his airplane's guns] AHHHH!

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Post by Spudkopf » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:54 pm

G'day Birddog

Thanks for the NYTS recon pictures.
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Post by Birddog » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:18 pm

Don't thank me Spudkopf, thank Admiral Toys... :D

Aren't those Napalm canisters mixed in the A-1's ordinance?

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Post by sicqnus » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:34 am

The Corsair looks great. What is the scale ? 1:32 ? 1:48 ?

EDIT/ Sorry I've just read the other topic. It's 1:32.

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Post by Spudkopf » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:33 pm

G'day All

Is AT's A-1H a USAF or is it a NAVY aircraft?

This is the question I have been asking myself since the first images of the prototype were released.

Now my preference is for a USAF version, but there are some minor details, or to be more precise the lacking of some minor details on the prototype that suggests that this is a NAVY bird.

The missing details in question are the FM 622 whip antenna that should be located just aft and to the left of the rear canopy and possibly an extra UHF/AM blade antenna which could be located either just aft and to the right of the rear canopy or further down the aircrafts spine, I believe these extra antenna were for communication with ground forces and were unique to AF birds and not on NAVY aircraft, so it would suggest that at this initial stage of the proceedings that the model is set up as the latter, I will concede that as the model is still only a prototype that such a details may yet still be added and at the same time it would make perfect sense to have the NAVY A-1H as the base model and add USAF details as separate parts later on.

The extra whip and blade antennas can be seen in the following images:

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(I also kind of like this balck underside night operations aircraft paint scheme shown above)

All that being said for most, if the antennas were to be missing on a UASF versions then to be honest they would probably not be missed and for those who did notice, then it would be a fairly minor task to add these antenna later.

You see! That is how often I’ve been drooling over these prototype pictures. I simply just can’t wait for this beast to be available.
that the model is set so .
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Post by FieroDude » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:49 pm

I dare say AT is early enough in the process that details like the antennas may be yet to come. So who knows? Maybe AT has plans to do both over time!
Now about that drooling problem... Working with waterslide decals has to be a unique challenge...
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Post by Spudkopf » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:33 am

Earl didn't you know that spit is a natural decal softener and it also provides you with enough slip time so you can the decals into the right place.

As far as USAF v NAVY goes I think I have just found the most damming evidence thus far that this model prototype is of a NAVY type. You see it's all in the wheels; the wheels that the US NAVY used were spoked just like those on the image of both the prototype and a preserved example show below:

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Where as the USAF on the other hand used solid wheels as the following images demonstrate:

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So in the light of this evidence it would look as if a NAVY AD-6 (A-1H) is the initial subject, but as FieroDude kind of said AT may still be early enough in the process to make alterations for a UASF type as well.

The big question is did Jason's dad fly USAF or NAVY? as I think this may end up being a determining factor.

As I have stated before my preference is still for a USAF aircraft, but as the excuse of not enough repaint options has already raised it’s ugly head on this forum and it would seem that the abundance of NAVY schemes available would also make this a logical choice for the Spad , however I'm confident (or at least hope) that Jason does not subscribe to that A-10ish style of logic.
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Post by Moth » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:58 am

Jason, will there be an oil/exhaust streak down the side of the Skyraider?

I like the look of dirty planes, and the Skyraider sure was dirty, I remember someone said they even painted the side black to hide the oil/exhaust marks :mrgreen:
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Post by Jason of Admiral Toys » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:02 pm

We are doing both the Navy and Air Force versions.

The antenna will not be present because we do not like holes in our airplanes that have nothing in them, and we are not willing to tool completely separate fuselages just for a small antenna.

The wheels will be different per model. We already have them prototyped, but obviously can only display one set on the master model.

The most notable difference that cannot be seen on the master model, that will be present on our variants, is the Yankee extraction seat on the Air Force version and standard jump for your life on the Navy version. It was one of my original clues.

For your information, my father flew for the Navy.

The exhaust down the side of the model is yet to be determined. We are damned if we do, damned if we don’t. It would be easier to add it yourself then to take it off our production models. We try to make as many people happy as we can. This means offering the clean model for the factory new folks, and dirty for the weathered lovers. We are not sure yet.

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Post by KAGNEW » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:46 pm

Jason
that means i will have to have 4 Skyraiders.
Navy blue, Navy grey, USAF SEA, VNAF
hope my bank account can stand that a some F-4s also :D
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Post by Sabrefan » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:10 pm

Thanks for the info Jason. Bring the Skyraider on! I gota get it! :D
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