The little or no interest in a 1/18 A-10 Thread

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:10 am

Jericoeagle1 wrote:Whoever voted no on the poll please tell us why not? I'm really interested in knowing if it is because you collect armour only, hate the aircraft etc.

I was the first to vote "NO". I collect WWII 1:18 aircraft.
I love the A-10 for what it is!! It's a magnificant weapon.
However, my real passion is in the distintive sound of a piston powered aircraft. Hell, I even bought the cd Round Sounds (it's an audio cd featuring the sounds of radial engine aircraft under several different conditions), and I play it very loud!
Sorry if I my vote ticked anybody off.

If this means I'm now blackballed here, just tell me now and I'll just "fade away".

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:23 am

tracer wrote:
Jericoeagle1 wrote:Whoever voted no on the poll please tell us why not? I'm really interested in knowing if it is because you collect armour only, hate the aircraft etc.
I was the first to vote "NO". I collect WWII 1:18 aircraft.
I love the A-10 for what it is!! It's a magnificant weapon.
However, my real passion is in the distintive sound of a piston powered aircraft. Hell, I even bought the cd Round Sounds (it's an audio cd featuring the sounds of radial engine aircraft under several different conditions), and I play it very loud!
Sorry if I my vote ticked anybody off. If this means I'm now blackballed here, just tell me now and I'll just "fade away".

Thanks for replying, and no you didn't tick anyone off. I just wanted to know what your thinking was. I have that same affection for radial engine aircraft and out of all WWI aircraft I think the Spad and the SE-5 were my favorites. I hope someday someone gets around to making WWI aircraft. As mentioned the repaint possibilities are endless. Plus imagine the contrast of aircraft that would provide a Sopwith Camel on one side and the F-104 on the other.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:23 am

That would be a cool range of aircraft. It would even be a wider range with the F-18 and F-16 thrown in the mix. Now for the A-10.......

KAMIKAZE · Post by **KAMIKAZE** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:44 am

I'll buy a few because I need to have something to blow up Sahara M-48's with.

Mark

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:37 am

Thinking about the diorama of having an A-10 (or two) rolling in on a tank kill.....a search and rescue mission with a Blackhawk picking up a downed pilot and the A-10 flying close air support to ward off advancing enemy troops and armour....even a tank killing dio with the A-10 and Apache working together....the Kiowa providing scouting close by.....man the possibilities.......

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:22 pm

http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/ ... 5B-013.jpg
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/ ... 0J-002.jpg
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/ ... 5B-020.jpg

Here are some more good photos of the A-10 and company I found....nothing compared to P51's though....

Post by **p51** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:57 pm

He he, I recognize the P-40 Warhawk in the first photo

That's the POF Museum's P-40.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:34 am

http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/ ... 0V-410.jpg

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:59 pm

Must resist BBQ this weekend...resolve weakening....

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:13 pm

Jericoeagle1 wrote:Must resist BBQ this weekend...resolve weakening....

Steady.....steady.....

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:10 pm

Hang in there buddy!

-Ski

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:45 pm

Made it through the first holiday on our crusade......now for the next.....

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:39 am

Looking at the Tally 29 to 2. I think that is a pretty good indicator of how popular the A-10 is even though the poll is just off the cuff. I'd imagine it would be just as popular with the public.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:50 pm

I agree...just went 30 to 2....looks popular to me. I know it isn't in the "Thousands", but I think that it is safe to say it will sell the "magic" number.

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:14 pm

EXCERPT FROM ROY SUTHERLAND INTERVIEW...

Area 21: The first one here is a good question we got from BirdDog – these are the guys on the message boards and are considered to be some of our most diehard fans. Bird Dog says, “We all remember seeing a prototype of the A10 in 1:18 scale. Is there still any hope of seeing this one day produced?”

RS: Well, hi, BirdDog. And yes, that prototype does exist. We have looked it over a number of times. The big issue is cost. It’s considerably bigger than even the BBI F-18. It’s a truly gigantic airplane. It’s a matter of whether sufficient numbers can be sold to justify the huge cost of tooling. It’s certainly not a dead issue, but I wouldn’t expect to see it in the immediate future.

Well its the same thing we've been hearing for the past couple of years. At least it's not a down right "No".

Post by **p51** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:33 pm

How about a 1/6 scale A-10?

Take a look at the size compared to the exit sign above the door. This massive sized A-10 was a target drone in the USAF. It's located now at the Planes of Fame Museum. It's HUUUUUGE! Thought you guys might like to see this.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:45 pm

It may be the same old news.....but I do think the chances and probability of it coming to life are now better than ever. I have a strong feeling that either BBI or 21st is going to do the A-10 one day. We can't slacken our show of interest though. They are listening.

Post by **p51** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:10 pm

If you guys want an even better size comparison... here's the West Coast Demo A-10 with the POF Museum's P-47G Thunderbolt, which is painted up very simular to 'Donnie Boy'.

And for fun... another POf Airshow A-10 shot:

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:53 pm

Does anyone actually have the dimensions for a 1/18 A-10?

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:59 am

It should be around 36 inches (if not a small amount more) in the wingspan and a little over 35 inches in the length of the fuselage.

I still think it can be done just as easily as the F-18 was done. The detail (opening engine cowlings, opening access doors to the gatlin gun, moving flaps, etc.), I think is what would greatly raise the price. Since all those type of options are starting to appear, it makes it hard to offer a plane without them now. Those options would be great, but if I had to forgo all of that to get an A-10 at a "market acceptable" price with the same quality (detail wise, gear problems fixed) as the F-16 and F-18, I'm all for it. It seems that the $60 to $70 range is where they want to keep things. I think the A-10 could be done for that with the same quality as the F-18 and F-16. All the detailing has got to have a major impact on the tooling cost of a mold.

vulgarvulture · Post by **vulgarvulture** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:04 pm

As always, thanks for the great pics, p51!

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:23 pm

I could think of some extras I'd like to see, for one a wide range of ordinance so you could configure for any mission, opening engine panels, access to the 30mm cannon,opening canopy, flaps, ailerons, rudders, stabilizers and landing gear.

I don't want much do I?

normandy · Post by **normandy** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:09 pm

32 to 2 Im with you Jericoeagle.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:28 pm

Opening cockpit, landing gear, and ordinance are a standard feature. It's the working flaps, ailerons, opening engine panels, etc. that are the features I could forgo to get a 1/18 A-10. The F-18 and F-16 don't have any of these and they are still great planes. What I'm saying is that if not having such extreme detail make the subject, like the A-10, less costly to produce, wouldn't that be worth it? Especially if this would make a larger aircraft easier to produce and sell because of a more acceptable selling price.

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:29 pm

Birddog wrote:Opening cockpit, landing gear, and ordinance are a standard feature. It's the working flaps, ailerons, opening engine panels, etc. that are the features I could forgo to get a 1/18 A-10. The F-18 and F-16 don't have any of these and they are still great planes. What I'm saying is that if not having such extreme detail make the subject, like the A-10, less costly to produce, wouldn't that be worth it? Especially if this would make a larger aircraft easier to produce and sell because of a more acceptable selling price.

Sure. But I'm just talking about a wish list here, my "Ideal bird". I don't care too much what the perks are as long as it gets produced.

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The little or no interest in a 1/18 A-10 Thread

Would you buy a 1:18 A-10 if it came on the market? If not, Why?