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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:05 am
by Black_Dragon_One
screw better most guy including me glue our finger together before we glue the two parts of the plane together..

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:13 am
by gburch
pickelhaube wrote:Everybody is missing the point.

The kits will be up to the builder as to how you are going to join your model. You guys can screw them together or glue them.

This is for the guys who are getting the full build.

Either they will be glued together permanently so you have no access OR joined with screws so you do.

That is the question permanent or screwed together.
AHA -- sorry; I get it. So we builders (even the ham-fisted ones like me) will get parts we can screw OR glue together. I think the last comment above is still missing the point -- If Pickel's building for you, you need to express a preference, because that's how he's doing all of them that he's building for others, as opposed to kits the builders will get -- right?

*IF* I get that right, then the question's still open, because there will be a difference in how you do things, right Pickel? In which case the difference will be that if the complete planes are glued together, they'll look slightly slicker than if they're glued -- but they'll be permanently glued together.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:29 am
by pickelhaube
gburch wrote:
pickelhaube wrote:Everybody is missing the point.

The kits will be up to the builder as to how you are going to join your model. You guys can screw them together or glue them.

This is for the guys who are getting the full build.

Either they will be glued together permanently so you have no access OR joined with screws so you do.

That is the question permanent or screwed together.
AHA -- sorry; I get it. So we builders (even the ham-fisted ones like me) will get parts we can screw OR glue together. I think the last comment above is still missing the point -- If Pickel's building for you, you need to express a preference, because that's how he's doing all of them that he's building for others, as opposed to kits the builders will get -- right?

*IF* I get that right, then the question's still open, because there will be a difference in how you do things, right Pickel? In which case the difference will be that if the complete planes are glued together, they'll look slightly slicker than if they're glued -- but they'll be permanently glued together.



EXACTAMONDO !!! :D :D :D

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:03 am
by Jnewboy
Screws.....
Screws are better
Screws are stronger
Please make the kits use screws!!!!!!

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:44 am
by flyboy_fx
PH is just going to screw the Ho. We're all screwed now. :lol:

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:54 am
by CW4USARMY
I am scheduled for one of your full builds. Would prefer screws, just in case I need to have access.

Thanks!,

Andy

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:45 pm
by Jay
While i'm going for the kit version, I can see how the screw together version would be better for folks here. I guess if anyone chooses, they can always glue the parts together at a later time if they want it permanently fixed.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:31 pm
by pickelhaube
It is way too early for gear but I could not resist. :D

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I may have the mock up gear a little long but it looks close to the vintage pic.

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As far as the gear goes. I will use the Me-262 front wheel for the main wheels. You can see what I will use for the nose wheel. I will use the main 262 wheel hub for the front wheel hub on the Horten.

Does any of that make any sense?

Also in the vintage pic it looks like the front tire is flattened out from the weight of the aircraft. It looks like that may have to be done to get a more realistic stance.

We will cross that bridge when we come to it.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:50 pm
by normandy
Holy Crap............ :shock: Matthew that looks fantastic. I can't wait to get my hands on this kit.
Oh man its time to get the old air brush ready. :)

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:01 pm
by Airacobra
Wow...Just Wow :shock:

You are making this very hard to say no to. Dang it, HO-229 or r/c stuff.....HO-229 or r/c stuff.....Can't...make...up...mind..... :x

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:08 pm
by flyboy_fx
Airacobra wrote:Wow...Just Wow :shock:

You are making this very hard to say no to. Dang it, HO-229 or r/c stuff.....HO-229 or r/c stuff.....Can't...make...up...mind..... :x
Gosh dang it, we're in the same boat.... :evil: Its a rapidly sinking boat also. :lol:

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:11 pm
by Airacobra
flyboy_fx wrote:
Airacobra wrote:Wow...Just Wow :shock:

You are making this very hard to say no to. Dang it, HO-229 or r/c stuff.....HO-229 or r/c stuff.....Can't...make...up...mind..... :x
Gosh dang it, we're in the same boat.... :evil: Its a rapidly sinking boat also. :lol:
I know, I just got my Top Flite 1/8 scale Gold Edition P-47 ARF in the mail today. I was saving up for a motor, but I don't know what I am going to do after seeing the progress of this build.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:22 pm
by NWarty
OMG Matthew, that's AWESOME!!!!

(Starts saving pennies)

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:40 pm
by pickelhaube
Thanks a lot guys. :D It means a lot .

The kudos should go to the subject matter . It is one cool plane.

It sure has been fun to build .

So far.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:14 pm
by ignorant_blanket
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lookin good Matthew!

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:15 pm
by pickelhaube
Airacobra wrote:Wow...Just Wow :shock:

You are making this very hard to say no to. Dang it, HO-229 or r/c stuff.....HO-229 or r/c stuff.....Can't...make...up...mind..... :x

Well I tell you . R/C was one of my hobbies before getting into 1/18 scale.

It is true there are 2 kinds of r/c planes those that have crashed and those that will.

My last project was about a 1/6 scale Stuka that had a Zenoa 38 gas engine. It made the coolest lawn dart that you ever wanted to see. :evil:

Static is the way to go a lot less heart aches.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:12 am
by gburch
pickelhaube wrote:Well I tell you . R/C was one of my hobbies before getting into 1/18 scale.

It is true there are 2 kinds of r/c planes those that have crashed and those that will.

My last project was about a 1/6 scale Stuka that had a Zenoa 38 gas engine. It made the coolest lawn dart that you ever wanted to see. :evil:

Static is the way to go a lot less heart aches.
AMEN, brother! I followed the same path and, lord knows, there was much heartache as I created expensive holes in the ground back in my R/C days ...

Meanwhile, PLEASE keep up the development pics on the Horten. What an inspiration it is to me as I struggle along on my own 1/18 obsession!

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:38 am
by JohnLumley
Matthew:

I am scheduled for a full build. I am ok with the screws.

John Lumley

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:50 pm
by pickelhaube
It looks like I am moving in the wrong direction. Today more de-contsruction rather than contsruction. :roll:

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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Pics 4-15

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:17 am
by normandy
Wow Pickel, thats a lot work you've put into the wheel wells.
These step by step pics really show how labor intensive one of your custom projects can be. Great job!

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Pics 4-15

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:04 pm
by DocTodd
Very cool, I wish I had your skills.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Pics 4-15

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:07 am
by pickelhaube
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Pics 4-15

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:38 pm
by normandy
This thing looks bad ass with or without wings.................
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above photos taken November 1944 Goettingen, Germany.

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Pics 4-15

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:46 pm
by Bar
normandy wrote:This thing looks bad ass with or without wings.................
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With modern materials, that would fly WITHOUT wings...

Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !! Pics 4-1

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:32 pm
by pickelhaube
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I have been working on the landing gear bay for over 2 days now . I should have it done by tomorrow.

A lot of time was wasted scratching my head as to how I was going to tackel the wheel doors . How would they work , do I make 2 sets open or closed ? All kinds of brain spinning things. ( I guess that is why I am slow at this stuff )

So I am going to make 1 set of doors for the main landing gear.The main strut covers will hinge off of the main section. The wheel covers will clip onto the main struts and the center covers will be hinged and connect to the center section wheel bay area.

Pretty simple now that I look back at it but perplexing at the time I was working on it.

Hopefully I will get pics up on Tues. Then the nose gear next and after that the cockpit. :wink: