The last Hanomag variant

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:29 pm

It only makes sense to have a vehicle to tow the 88 gun. I am quite sure that 21st will put out a vehicle to tow the 88.

chunks · Post by **chunks** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:52 pm

Pakwagon spotted.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultimate-Soldier-1- ... dZViewItem

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:14 pm

been a few on now...how much are they fetching?

chunks · Post by **chunks** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:17 pm

aferguson wrote:been a few on now...how much are they fetching?

I see that now, it was new to me. He has $37.95 listed on his website, but not yet available.

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:19 pm

i saw one on auction going for about $55 at the time but i don't know what the final price was..

chunks · Post by **chunks** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:23 pm

Now that they're showing up, it can't be too long before BadCat, MTS, Smalljoes, and others start offering them at a more realistic price.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:11 pm

Here's a little info on the Pak-40 Hanomag that I found. It fromt the website: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/3515/251/#index I've edited the text slightly as the grammar was a little off, and I hate posts with bad writing

From what I can tell, the 21c version is quite accurate to the real thing

251/22 mittleren Schützenpanzerwagen (7.5 cm Pak 40)
Version: D

In the last stages of the war every available gun was put on any available mount to make a self-propelled weapon. Hitler, who thought that this was a key-weapon, gave this version of the halftrack extensive attention. Even the towed version of the Pak 40 gun was produced with a trimmed shield to be able to be mounted directly. An overloaded chassis and a structure not designed for the strain of the gun's recoil lead to many mechanical breakdowns. The mount of the gun was made by two H shaped beams welded to the floor roughly halfway the vehicle and the armor above the driver. A platform consisting of flat triangular plates holding a laterally piece of H-beam at half way carried the gun's original undercarriage. A half-moon-shaped section was trimmed from the front upper armor. The left and right traverse of the gun was limited to 18 and 19 degrees respectively. The elevation was -3 to +22 degrees. From December 1944 on, the production of this vehicle had high priority. The gunner sat on a folding wooden seat to the left of the gun. The standard optical instruments were used.

Equipment:
7.5 cm Pak 40 (L/46)
Rear MG42
22 rounds HE and AP ammo
Crew of 4 or 5

Changes from the standard 251:
The co-drivers visor was closed by a plate. The gun had a travel-lock between the front visors. Both front benches and rifle-racks were removed. A bin of 17 rounds to the right and a bin of 5 rounds under the gun were constructed. Most crews carried extra ammo in loose containers, sometimes in the left rifle-rack. Net Weight 8000 kg.

hotrodrock · Post by **hotrodrock** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:24 pm

There was a flame thrower panzerwagen that would be pretty cool for 21st to make.