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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:45 pm
by Teamski
KAGNEW wrote:i learned when the spitfires and P-40s were new to get at least the first ones from Bad Cat.
and i work next door to a Wally world. my dealerships parking lot connects to wallyw. in fact i eat lunch at Big mac inside it and still have missed planes i wanted. this WM never got the P-47s.
so if i hadn't preordered from Bad Cat i never would have gotten them
plus the TRU never got the BBI F-18 or F-16s. so Bad Cats preorders saved me again
just my 2 cents
I find no need to panic on XD releases. For the most part, I can either find them locally or trade with others. That is a far cheaper option than on-line. Don't forget about shipping. With me living on the East coast, it doesn't just come to a $7 difference getting stuff vrom BCT! Now, with bbi stuff, that is a completely different story altogether. I ordered all of the aircraft on-line because I knew they would'nt be available otherwise.....

-SKi

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:20 am
by Rogue
What about when everyone cheaps out at WM, till BCA, etc. are gone.

Then WM drops XD!

What then?

I don't mind the little extra to get the box on the doorstep.

Hhhmmm...

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:46 am
by digger
Rogue wrote:I don't mind the little extra to get the box on the doorstep.
Exactly.

However, by your logic perhaps we should all buy at WM so they don't drop XD :shock: :?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:49 pm
by KAGNEW
HI
like i do.
always buy 1st from BC then if i want another and wm has it i'll get it.
but i to like it at my doorstep.
plus i like the "thank you" on BC's invoice.
and S&H is offset buy tax

Re: Hhhmmm...

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:50 pm
by Rogue
digger wrote:
However, by your logic perhaps we should all buy at WM so they don't drop XD :shock: :?
There are not enough of "US" to sway WM, but the little guys ???

Wm

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:40 pm
by digger
Oh, I hear ya....but I guess the bigger question is are there enough little guys to support XD :? ?

Overhead

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:29 pm
by OnWu
diggerer wrote:
but I guess the bigger question is are there enough little guys to support XD
I think it depends on which "little guy" you are talking about. For your typical moonlighting PE teacher running a little side business out of his backyard shed, we are definitely enough to make a difference. These "micro" firms have very little overhead (no rent, labor or associated taxes) so the sales we as a group can generate can be a substantial part of their income.

Other "little guys" like Toy Fed or BC can import 5-10,000 pieces at a time and have annual sales of several million dollars or so, certainly our impact is felt to a much lessor exent with these types of "small" businesses.

nope...

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:35 pm
by digger
:lol: You misunderstood - my point was are there enough little retailers to support XD (nothing to do with us)? :?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:35 pm
by OnWu
Uh, never mind 8)

S1

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:35 am
by digger
BCA upped the price on the S1 pre-order - at this point with a pre-order not shipping until the 28th, them charging your card right away and the increased price, I can't imagine there is any reason to pre-order. :roll:

As for the S3 - Did 21st add German warning labels all over the plane or is that just me? :shock: If they did that is truly some amazing attention to detail. I really want that S3.... :P

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:03 pm
by DocTodd
I think they are all good looking, but the S3 looks the best. I hope we don't get into another FW 190 situation at WM where the S2 doesn't move so you never see the S3.
Todd

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:06 pm
by aferguson
so did anyone get an F-104 at comicon? I'm jealous if you did...the german one looks spiff.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:19 am
by tko211
That German F-104 is soooo cool in person! The orange is BRIGHT, seriously bordering on neon. Very striking next to grey tones! What a great scheme. and yes Digger, ALL the warnings are present and very crisp!

Here is the Coolest part though... Because it is a G model and not a early US version it has a G tail! It is seriously longer and has a larger rudder than its Silver and Camo brothers! I thought that was a very nice touch! so the G is right now a unique mold with a different tail section.
People really liked the Starfighter. I am predicting strong support on this one!

I bought 2 of each plane! One set is going to a friend who is serving over seas right now. Well I guess they will be waiting for him when he gets back!

See you guys later, I'm tired from the trip!

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:43 am
by Teamski
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Lucky bastard whoever got the other 2! :wink:

This is the first time in XD history that 2 different model versions of the same plane have been released at the same time. Sweet!! For the first time you aren't just getting a repaint, but a new aircraft altogether. I like that a lot!! I'm sure that didn't keep down modeling costs either.....

PM sent, Zach..........

-Ski

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:19 am
by aferguson
wow....that is great that they actually made structural mods to accomodate the paint mods. As Ski said, a first and hopefully a trend for the future. :D

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:20 am
by digger
Teamski wrote::shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Lucky bastard whoever got the other 2! :wink:

-Ski
Seriously, that SOB whoever he is.... :wink: :lol:

F-104 !!!!

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:02 am
by Helo Driver
I picked up the F-104 at comic con...as well as the Gunter Rall ME-109.

The F-104 is really, really nice. I had it sitting on the landing gear for two days now...and they hold up really well. However, I just strung it up on the ceiling of my garage with all my other planes.

This is by far one of the best products 21st Century toys has done. I also held it up next to my bbi F-18 and it's just as big as that one!

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:28 am
by aferguson

no

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:39 am
by digger
It's a pre-order. If you're gonna do that you might as well save $45 and order on BCA.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:44 pm
by p51
I was able to get a F-104 at comic con as well. The German paint scheme and the silver american scheme. I'll post some photos of the Starfighter next time I set up the photo studio for the archive.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:51 pm
by USCGSARdog
Will the German scheme be available at WM :?:

-Rob

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:49 pm
by tmanthegreat
I don't think anyone can tell when anything will show up at Wal Mart, whether it be XD, school supplies, lawn accessories, or what ever :wink:

The F-104s could show up a week or two before they come to the small retailers (like the Spitfire did) or show up many months later like the BF-109G. Currently, they are supposed to arrive at the small retailers by next week.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:07 pm
by aferguson
Badcat is calling the S1 an F-104G but it's an F-104C is it not?