Badcat's "Private Reserve"

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:26 pm

More power to them!

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:27 pm

"I for one was really disappointed in the Skycapatin P40! Not only did it not match the one in the greatest movie event of all time....it doesnt even turn into a sub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

No, the greatest tragedy with that piece was that it didn't come with an Angelina Jolie action figure..

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:32 pm

aferguson wrote:"I for one was really disappointed in the Skycapatin P40! Not only did it not match the one in the greatest movie event of all time....it doesnt even turn into a sub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

No, the greatest tragedy with that piece was that it didn't come with an Angelina Jolie action figure..

Now what would you do with an Angelina Jolie action figure?

blurx7 · Post by **blurx7** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:52 pm

I guess that depends on the scale.....

King O' Fools · Post by **King O' Fools** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:53 pm

blurx7 wrote:Well.. it's a business. If he thinks he can get the price, more power to him, though I won't be buying. If someone doesn't want to pay that much, then more power to them. No rules in this market other than charge what the market will bear and buyer beware!

Yes, it's a business. Does that mean it's ok to misrepresent the facts in order to make a profit?

"Everything included here is long out of production."

Remember, Bernard Madoff's pyramid scheme was a 'business' also: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... me">Madoff Told Employees Business Was ‘One Big Lie,’ SEC Says</a>

Hey, More Power To Madoff.

popeye357 · Post by **popeye357** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:29 pm

hahahaha, Aferg, that is so true! I have purchased some stuff from BCA and like to think of them as a standup company, BUT why would they say the PR things are long out of production and rare when you can find alot of these still carried by Etailers? I think they would have sold them for the prices they ask for even without the claims of rarity. I do not belive they are willingly trying to cheat their customers but the claims are definitely misinformed.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:03 pm

Already have all of these. Think I paid $25 for the Sky Captain P-40 at Wal-mart.
The 1;32 Sky Captain Tomahawk is actually rarer, and most times commands a higher finishing bid on ebay.

They're white lying when they say "long out of production" depends on your point of view of long.

It's just business to hoodwink the one's entering this hobby... suckers.

If you want to talk "Private Reserve" is when Badcat saved some of their exclusives like the Pearl Harbor Zero, and "Cripes a Mighty" P-51D.
They then put the last few on ebay and let the public have at em' once they go to BCA and find they are no longer in stock, but yet Badcat is auctioning the last few, they go sky high because everybody panics.

To me it's just smart business. They were the ones to put up the money for these special paint schemes, so they're entitled to do as they see fit. If it makes them more money to get exclusive paint scheme warplanes like they used to, more power to them.

I'm just glad I've been in this hobby long enough to know what's what, and I bought all these a long time ago, even the real "private reserve" Badcat Exclusives.

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:06 pm

"Now what would you do with an Angelina Jolie action figure?"

same thing i do with all my other plastic women.

i display them.

King O' Fools · Post by **King O' Fools** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:15 pm

Dauntless wrote:They're white lying when they say "long out of production" depends on your point of view of long.
It's just business to hoodwink the one's entering this hobby... suckers.

So it's OK to lie to peole entering this hobby because they're... "suckers?"

I guess this goes a long way in explaining some of your earlier comments in the off topic section, BTW: "we should be concerned about is even the slightest suspicion of inpropriety."

Really?

It would seem that impropriety doesn't bother you in the least when you're not the one being hoodwinked. Go figure.

More Power To Madoff.

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:14 pm

AMERICAN_GRENADIER wrote:the HM f-4 isnt even out yet!

Ah, yes it is and SOLD OUT at most retailers.. I have 3 HM Phantoms (including this one) and HM is getting ready to issue their 4th release.

Badcats "sale" looks more like they hit all the TRU's in their area and are reselling what they found.

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:29 pm

hworth18 wrote:
AMERICAN_GRENADIER wrote:the HM f-4 isnt even out yet!
Ah, yes it is and SOLD OUT at most retailers.. I have 3 HM Phantoms (including this one) and HM is getting ready to issue their 4th release.

Badcats "sale" looks more like they hit all the TRU's in their area and are reselling what they found.

yep i realized it was the already released F-4 once i looked closer. i thought it was the JASDF version. didnt have my glasses on!

hotrodrock · Post by **hotrodrock** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:46 pm

Not defending anyone by any means but doesn't out of production mean that an item is not being manufactured anymore? It doesn't mean something is not available. May be semantics but its true. Its a common term used on ebay and they are not misreprsenting what they are selling the majority of the time. Some of the items are in abundant supply but its true that they are not being made anymore. Maybe its the word "long" that is bothering some of us.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:01 pm

King O' Fools wrote:
Dauntless wrote:They're white lying when they say "long out of production" depends on your point of view of long.
It's just business to hoodwink the one's entering this hobby... suckers.
So it's OK to lie to peole entering this hobby because they're... "suckers?"

I guess this goes a long way in explaining some of your earlier comments in the off topic section, BTW: "we should be concerned about is even the slightest suspicion of inpropriety."

Really?

It would seem that impropriety doesn't bother you in the least when you're not the one being hoodwinked. Go figure.

More Power To Madoff.

Digging up a sentence in a long dead political thread? Still playing gotcha?
That's pretty pathetic.

They're trying to sell you a toy airplane here, not steal your house.

DropTank · Post by **DropTank** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:00 pm

I have have had several dealings with BC, some great, some not. Each time it was by my choice with regards to the item and price. Each person has to use their own judgement in regards to what they want to purchase. BC has the right to try to sell what they want, at the price they want. If I feel the price is too high, I "bloviate" in front of their warehouse cam and watch the item gather dust.

iflabs · Post by **iflabs** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:01 pm

Definitely LOL prices.

I can't get rid of my Ritchie F-4 by Hobby Master ever since I found out he's going to prison and got some weird vibe from it.

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:29 pm

IFLABS:

I think you're thinking of Duke Cunningham sentenced to prison, not Steve Ritchie.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:40 am

iflabs wrote:Definitely LOL prices.

I can't get rid of my Ritchie F-4 by Hobby Master ever since I found out he's going to prison and got some weird vibe from it.

That was Duke Cunningham and for that Vide you are getting...well all I can say is ....I think you should lay off the wacky tobaccy.

iflabs · Post by **iflabs** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:56 am

dragon53 wrote:IFLABS:

I think you're thinking of Duke Cunningham sentenced to prison, not Steve Ritchie.

Whoops, haha. Got the names twisted, I guess that happens when you're up on diecast forums checking for new stuff constantly. Now I'm glad I grabbed the JR F-4 to replace the Cunningham.

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:33 am

The old saying goes
"Somthing is only worth what someone else is willing to pay!"

This is the nature of the collecting arena. things you buy today maybe worth nothing in a week. but maybe worth ten times that if a guy really wants it!

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:57 am

What a joke.

-Ski

King O' Fools · Post by **King O' Fools** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:29 am

Dauntless wrote:
King O' Fools wrote: So it's OK to lie to peole entering this hobby because they're... "suckers?"

I guess this goes a long way in explaining some of your earlier comments in the off topic section, BTW: "we should be concerned about is even the slightest suspicion of inpropriety."

Really?

It would seem that impropriety doesn't bother you in the least when you're not the one being hoodwinked. Go figure.

More Power To Madoff.
Digging up a sentence in a long dead political thread? Still playing gotcha?
That's pretty pathetic.

They're trying to sell you a toy airplane here, not steal your house.

You certainly have a way with words. It would seem to me, however, that you're contradicting yourself again:

They're trying to sell you a toy airplane here, not steal your house.

It's just business to hoodwink the one's entering this hobby... suckers.

Which is the reason why I quoted your other contradictory statement. Yeah, pathetic, I know. Quoting you verbatim, what was I thinking of?

Funny thing is you didn't address this direct question in your latest comment either:

Is it OK to "hoodwink" people entering this hobby because they're "suckers?" Yes or no?

C'mon, don't be coy. Let us know how you really feel about newcomers.

Post by **aferguson** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:34 am

argue in PM or email guys........not on here.

ZIP IT BOTH OF YOU.

Bryce · Post by **Bryce** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:16 pm

Is this Steve Ritchie the same one who used to make all those pinball games?

popeye357 · Post by **popeye357** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:17 pm

No dude, youre thinking of Lionel Ritchie

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:26 pm

It looks like a Lionel Ritchie 1/18 Phantom will be released before a Steve Ritchie 1/18 Phantom...