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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:21 pm
by vulgarvulture
Just adding a little more to Kagnew's post on F-4 heritage flights. This info apparently from the horse's mouth i.e. 2 F-4 heritage flight pilots:

As long as maintenace doesn't get to be a big problem, the USAF is committed to keeping the F-4 in the Heritage Flight as long as there are serviceable airframes to used. They have painted up 6 jets (2 at Holoman and 4 at Tyndall) in paint schemes representing each of the aircraft's 4 decades in active service (60's, 70's , 80's, 90's). The Vietnam era was the one era missing from the Heritage Flights, so the USAF wanted to find a way to fill that gap and so they are committed to the F4 participation for the foreseeable future.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:24 pm
by steelbonnet
HAHAHAHAHA Yep I am indeed from Good Olde Blighty :D

Sounds like you got some great shots whilst over here mate :D Hope the skies where blue when you took the shots LOL :D

The F4 still flies for the RAF I think,or at least as part of a flight of somesort. As on the MoDphoto site they have some recent photos of F4s landing at a RAF base. Must admit either still in service or part of a flight It`s Great to still see the F4 still flies over Blighty :D

So Kagnew,
How the hell does an Englishman actually write??? LOL
No UK to US spelt words were in the post to give it away. So is it sentence structre? I`d truely love to know :D Well done though :D
HAHAHAHA

Ja
Steel Bonnet

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:14 pm
by KAGNEW
I'LL let you know a little secret.
i'm 1/2 English have kin in Dorchester & Liegh on the sea in jollyO E. then1/2 German with kin in Bohn.& then fluent in both. and so the US goverment kept me in Europe/West Africa area for a long time after getting shot up in Vietnam. learned a lot about people from the way they write.
and to VV, old friend i guess we missed a site. 4 F-4Es in formation saturday & sunday at Tucson D/M air show.
but pix are coming on our other Yahoo site

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:42 pm
by tmanthegreat
steelbonnet wrote: How the hell does an Englishman actually write??? LOL
No UK to US spelt words were in the post to give it away. So is it sentence structre?
Ja
Steel Bonnet
The use of "mate" in a sentence helps me to narrow it down - and then I think you've mentioned you were from the UK now and then :D

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:23 am
by steelbonnet
Ahhhhh Some Mixed heritage there Kagnew. Both with LONG & Proud historys too :D
WOW Vietnam,first person I actually know who is a vet of that war. Great respect to you mate. Also nice of the US Goverment to let you play in Europe & West Africa a Lot :D
Would love to see the F4 fly by photo :D

TmantheGreat,
Ohhh I`m well aware I`ve said I`m British & I do use "mate" a lot...LOL
Just with Kagnew saying from that particular post. I double checked it & did`nt see "mate" or any other give aways,well apart from saying AV8-B/GR5 (GR5 of course being the Royal Air Force harrier).
I was just really curious purely from that post what gave me away :D

Though nothing to ashamed of is a bit a National pride :D After all you Americas oooze that. Whilst we Brits have a tendancy to down play or not make a big show due to Political Correctness making being Proud a bad thing :(

ja
Steel Bonnet

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:19 am
by KAGNEW
hi steelb.
i was in 82nd Airborne 75th Rangers,got a Purple Heart, & Silver Star in Nam
i hope the F-4 pix to be up on a website by weekend

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:42 am
by steelbonnet
WOW 82nd Abn & 75th Rangers. Bet you have a Big board of ribbons then & of course awards too.

As said got a LOT of respect for you & also for any who serve/Have Served (whichever nation), No matter what the Political interests of that Combatiants Goverment.
It`s the people in Uniform who make the differences Not the Politicians IMHO.

Looking forward to seeing the photos when there up :D

Ja
Steel Bonnet

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:42 am
by KAGNEW
for $9800.00
the Collins Foundation offering 2 day school in only flying privately owned F-4D Phantom to qualified persons.

PHANTOMS COULD FIT IN AVENGER BOXES

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:01 am
by KAGNEW
OK time to renew our 1/18 PHANTOM Phorever thread
4 USAF F-4Es are at airshows this year

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:09 pm
by Wings_&_Armor
Every time I drive into Langley AFB I see the full size F4 Phantom
on display and think how great it would be in 1:18 Scale! Hope one of the companies will make the investment. Sign me up for a couple.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:43 am
by ostketten
--Flown concurrently by Blue Angels & T-Birds
True, but the Phantom was a handful to fly and I believe there were more than a few fatal accidents involving the F-4 during it's tenure as the mount for the t-birds and blue angels. I believe it's safety record coupled with high operating an maintenance costs were two of the main reasons it was phased out of it's airshow role. The diminutive T-38 Talon had one of the best safety records of any USAF airshow bird if memory serves me.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:48 am
by KAGNEW
don't forget the worst accident the Thunderbirds ever had was in T-38s.
all four planes flew into ground in diamond formation

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:49 am
by bigsarge
I was so into the f-4 that I did my senior year term paper on this plane.My teacher was a little disturbed at this but given the detail I put into it along with the photos and a 1/48 model I got the grade I needed to graduate.