Now that there will be big planes...will there be SHIPS?

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:29 pm

Threetoughtrucks wrote:You guys are just not being practical. NOW, if we had a 1/18 LST to load all our 1/18 armor, now that would be something.

TTT

You know what maybe some one here could make a blue print and make one out of wood.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:31 pm

pickelhaube wrote:
VMF115 wrote: Please don’t be so negative, I think ships are cool but I don’t have the space or the room, other then that I would love to have one if they every made one.

I think we all need to respect each other’s want and needs
I here you my XD brother

Right back at you

Post by **aferguson** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:45 am

Ships will never be in 1/18. Not in any mass produced form. There is the odd museum piece that's 1/20 or the odd r/c ship that someone has made but that's it.

So really, if you want XD ships your're on your own (not talking PBR's and LCM's here....these are boat sized and are realistic. I'm talking about ships: submarines, destroyers, cruisers, battleships, carriers etc).

Of course even if you can make them yourself they are gigantic. Destroyers at least 20 feet and battleships over 40 feet long and 6 feet wide.

Over the years i've tried various ways of solving the problem of getting 1/18 ships in my collection. The best ideas i've come up with are:

1) forced perspective: basicallly these are smaller scale ship models (between 1/72 and 1/350 is ideal) that you hold close to your eye while viewing 1/18 models in the backround. When lined up properly, which is pretty easy to do, you get a very good sense of how big the ship is compared to your 1/18 scale items.

2) flats: basically these are 1/18 sideviews of ships. I made one of a corvette a few years ago. It wasn't that hard to make and was designed to fold every 3 feet for easy storage. When unfolded and proped up it was about 12 feet long and showed the profile of a corvette very nicely in 1/18 scale. Of course no depth to it at all. Basically it is like one of those cardboard stand ups you see in movie theatres, only of a ship rather than a person. The lack of 3 dimensionality left me feeling 'flat' however. Heh.

3) magnifiers: similar to the forced perspective, the idea here was to do all ship models to a somewhat smaller but constant scale (i would choose 1/40 because it's about half the size of XD and there are a number of r/c models available in this scale). You can buy magnifying glasses that you wear that make everything appear 2x larger. So you simply put the glasses on and look at the ship, which now appears twice the size, or about 1/18. By looking at your 1/18 items without the glasses on you can get a good size comparison. I've tried this on smaller items and it works better than you'd think. However, you can't have any XD figures directly interact with the smaller scale ships.

So that's it. All the ideas are pretty lame i know but that's the best i've come up with. All have major drawbacks but have one advantage: they are a heck of a lot more practical than trying to build a 1/18 battleship in your basement.

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:10 am

Why not start off big and give me either a WWII or Modern era Carrier. I don't car which one it will be, just give me one of those to take up all of the space in the garage.

Really though, a WWII PT boat would be nice to have and would not be all that big.

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:20 am

A Higgins PT-109 type would be almost 5 feet long and almost 2 feet wide

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:21 am

I'm up for a PBR.

I remember the PBR prototype we saw from 21st years back too. It was a great looking prototype they had/have going. Wouldn't mind seeing that released sometime.

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:27 am

and a sanpan. plus a Swift boat, a china junk

TOOL · Post by **TOOL** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:02 pm

I won't hold my breath for any boats or ships but....I guess if you were ambitious you could scratchbuild.

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:17 am

Uh... Honey.. Something came for you in the mail today from Bad Cat...

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:51 am

grunt1 wrote:Uh... Honey.. Something came for you in the mail today from Bad Cat...

ROFLMAO

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:06 am

blurx7 wrote:How about a PT boat, followed by a series of 1/18 navy figures, with the Mae West jackets and those cool navy helmets. I am liking this. The idea of portions of a larger ship is cool, too. I can really picture an AA battery from a Destroyer. Or how about a "Mr. Roberts" cargo ship diorama complete with Ensign Pulver and the Captain and his Palm tree? Back to the PT Boat, how about a McArthur figure? We got Patton, after all.

I would go for a PT 109.

The Japanese Ship cutting it in half would be a bit much.

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:11 am

VMF115 wrote:
grunt1 wrote:Uh... Honey.. Something came for you in the mail today from Bad Cat...

ROFLMAO

i think if something like that came from BC,

it would have to be in front yard not in back

75th Ranger · Post by **75th Ranger** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:21 am

A PT Boat with R/C capabilties in 1/18 based on Kennedy's PT boat with a Kennedy figure, some sailors and possibly am MCarthur's figure would be nice.

the R/C feature menas you can play with it in the pool or lake and kids as well as adultsl ike that plus it will make it alos nice for us the collectors.

what do you guys think?

r/c PT boat 109. in 1/18.

mrkisskissbangbang · Post by **mrkisskissbangbang** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:52 am

I think ships would be great to have in 1:18 scale. I doubt we will see anything big. But wouldn't it be great if one of the R/C companies built something.....that is not too unreasonable.
I'd love a German Type VII or XI Submarine (mind you they'll be over 3.5m long).

There are some smaller ships out there that can be adapted to 1:18 scale...will post pics when available.

Cheers

jhogan · Post by **jhogan** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:16 pm

I agree with Googlydoogly a Hornet would help sales of 1:18 B-25's. To make it realistic, I project the carrier would need about a 178 HP marine engine and R/C radio with really big servos to drive the 45 foot long Hornet. This is silly, so it should be offered only as a static model.

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:05 pm

what scale were the ships made for Tora! Tora! Tora!
they were somewhere around 1/20 if i remember
i saw a Japanese destorer on ebay some years ago

Post by **aferguson** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:09 am

yeah i remember that....i think they were 1/24?

Post by **aferguson** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:14 am

there are some nice r/c submarine kits made by Robbe of Germany. They do a type VIIIC, type XXI and modern German attack sub. All are in 1/40 scale (so about half the size we xders need them to be) and are around 6 feet long. I've been tempted to get the type vii for some time, despite its ''small'' size.

Here are pics of the built up U-47. Just a tad under six feet long.

http://people.zeelandnet.nl/hjzuidweg/U ... Robbe.html

They also have a 1/40 german E boat and it's rumoured they may be doing a 1/40 Gato.

tankduel · Post by **tankduel** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:23 pm

One of my club members built this...fully functioning RC..1/16th

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:47 pm

That is a really cool landing craft!

Small Scale Military Headquarters

Now that there will be big planes...will there be SHIPS?

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