F-16's In stock

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Post by Teamski » Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:05 pm

Dana:

Right now, some TRU's are carrying F-18s. How this may go as far as the F-16, P-51 and Sherman are concerned is anybody's guess right now. If you figure how many planes need to be sold for a profit, they have to show up somewhere. TRU would be as good as any..........

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Post by HardenSteel » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:29 pm

Got my F16 the other day from BadCat and another fast, well shipped item. I have to give great credit to them for not only getting this stuff in and promoting it, but for offering the special editions. Good business savy.

I have to aggree with most of what everyone else has said.

There are a few not so good things on mine - the nose cone is not well fitted and will have to come off and be corrected. The leading part of the rear stabilizer where it meeets the main fusillage is some what warped and requires a lot of hot water and pressure to correct. Would like to see the cannon port and main air intake a bit more detailed- following their improved look on the exhaust.


Detail is getting better in the cockpit, but still lost of room for improvement.

What's with the ladder? too toyish. As others have already pointed out, the missiles could use some refinement, but then again, gives you something to do. Perhaps they should make the stablizers work and the leading edge flaps on something as amazing as this.

I do like the extra detail on the wings, the overall look and appeal of the F16 is tremendous! They are getting better with panel lines and some riviting and overall detailing. Subtle and well defined is the way to go. The separated wing tip missile rails and missiles is a good logical improvement.

The landing gear is also much sturdier and the detail slowly getting better. Actually, I think they should just put highly detailed metal struts in these very heavy offerings and forgo the plastic. This jet is quite heavy. It would be a real bonus for detailers like myself, and you would not have to worry about the inevitable fatigue and failure of those components.

I loved all the little extra details they added. It goes a long way to making it one of the best efforts yet.

I've not seen the mustang, so can't comment on it. (but by the sound of it, I'll have to get one)

Dispite the fact that I'm an armour guy, I find that I have as much or possibly more XD aircraft than XD ground pounders. So that should tell you sometning about how atractive these things are... when you see it in person, you know made the right decsion to get one.

Yep, a real beauty!

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Post by Bruzzer » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:58 pm

I put my "wolfpack" f16 up yesterday and like everyone says the plane looks great. They did a better job with the sidewinders and bombs on the F18. The other thing is only the air guard F16s should have the sparrow, there also on the wrong hardpoint. The sparrow should be on the middle hardpoint where the bombs are. I left them off and wedged them on my F18 between the left and right wheels. That said I still want to get an air guard version one of these days, unless we can get a T-bird version.

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Post by DocTodd » Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:14 pm

Received my ANG F-16 yesterday and it looks real nice! It appears a bit more realistic than the F-18 and sturdy. I agree with the previous reviews. This is definitely a must have.
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Post by tmanthegreat » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:22 am

I have a question on the BBI F-16 markings. There is the BBI version with the wolf on the tail but is this accurate? The pictures I've found of aircraft from the 8th Fighter Wing have a different wolf graphic. See the first couple of pictures on my website for reference...

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accurate markings

Post by Sdup » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:12 pm

I was wondering the same thing. I found a pic on the web with the same wolf pack markings:

http://www.intsysint.com/photos/yokota2 ... 9l_std.jpg

I got my BBI f-16 a coupla days ago. Its really amazing; definitely a must have.

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link doesn't work.

Post by Sdup » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:18 pm

Ok I don't know why the link doesn't work. I found the pic by entering wolf pack f-16 into images.google.com. Here is a link to the google search results page:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... f%26sa%3DN

Hopefully this works.

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another pic

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Post by tmanthegreat » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:52 pm

Thanks! Thats the type of photograph I was looking for and its a near perfect match with the markings on the BBI plane. Perhaps different squadrons in the wing use a different wolf graphic...


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Post by Teamski » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:44 pm

Wow! A perfect match! I added the F-16 to the Profile Album. Thanks for making it easy!!

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Post by buzzard » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:02 pm

IIRC, planes painted in this manner are the SQN'Wg flagships? Assigned to the CO? can anyone confirm?

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Post by Teamski » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:06 pm

You are absolutely correct Buzzard. The rest of the wing flies with the squadron markings...........

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Post by buzzard » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:31 pm

Thanx for the confirmation Ski. I recall reading about this somewhere & also that the DML 1/72 version had the same markings.

Cheers!

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Post by Teamski » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:35 pm

Wahoo!!!

I got my 2 F-16s today from Toys N' Swords. I got them for $79 each plus $20 for shipping on both. Again, not bad at all from CA to DE!

The bbi F-16 is as mentioned above well done! It takes the record for the number of twisty ties hands down!! With all of the hardware that comes with it, it makes sense!! And with everything loaded, it is a heavy beast With the F-18, I'm afraid to hang it! Now I'm officially out of room due to size. mmmmmm........ Now how to jam more planes in.......

The detailing on the plane is really nice as you would expect. The inclusion of static eliminators on the wings and tail really finish it off. The wings snap in really well, so no sagging wings (yey!) and as mentioned before, the gear is up to the task (so again, yey!).

If 21st and bbi continue putting out great plane after great plane as we expect, I'm in big trouble!!! These things are just simply amazing.........

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ps- Toys N' Swords have 5 left. Once again, I got great service from them..............
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Post by Teamski » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:36 pm

Ok, now it's official, I like the F-16 more than the F-18............

Does anybody know why the Sidewinder on the F-16 is so much bigger than the F-18? Is this a scale issue or a different version? Also, I have yet to find one picture showing the Sparrow on an outboard pylon. Any ideas??

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Post by Bruzzer » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:53 pm

My refences show only the guard ADF F16's carried the sparrow.
It was carried on the middle pylon where the bombs are. I had to leave them off.

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Post by aferguson » Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:56 am

There's a new exclusive F-16 being offered by BCA....Hill AFB.

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Post by digger » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:14 pm

How many of these are we supposed to buy?? Do they think we live in aircraft hangars? Anyone who wanted an F-16 likely got one, so are we supposed to have multiple 3 foot jets flying around our airspace? Sorry, it's just the repaint thing is getting out of hand....

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Post by tmanthegreat » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:22 pm

The first one of those "fly in" communities is only a few miles from my house in Fresno. Its called Sierra Sky Park, and most of the good-sized homes that surround the airfield have oversized garages that double as small hangers. While its an active small airport (they hold a small general aviation get-together there once a month and planes are always flying out of there), I don't think it was an overall success. I should somehow make alot of money, move there, and use the hanger-garage of my house to store all the XD.


BTW - The BCA Exclusive Hill AFB F-16 has that "generic" Air Force look to it, which is nice, but I'm perfectly happy with my "Wolf Pack" F-16! Besides, didn't they already get an exclusive F-16 that came with no tail markings?

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Post by vmf214 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:10 pm

I'm surprised BC didn't opt for a Thunderbird scheme this time, would've gone nice with the Blue Angel. Hopefully they plan to in the future as that's the only other F-16 I'd be interested in buying. One regular AF plane is enough.

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Post by aferguson » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:57 am

My F-16's came today (yeah i know, it's sunday, i was shocked). Anyway, boy are they nice. Bigger than i imagined. Really sweet.

Every once and a while i become discouraged about this hobby but then something like this big F-16 comes along and reminds me what it's all about.

:D :D :D

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Post by aferguson » Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:58 pm

2 F-16 questions:

1) What was the verdict on the main undercarriage? Is it strong enough to not need support or does it sag over time?

2) Why are the Sidewinders so big?


Also, I made something of a surprising discovery while playing around with my F-16. I wanted to pose it in take off mode with the nose wheel off the ground as if it is just about to unstick. I also was looking for ways to simulate an afterburner flame spike...ie for an afterburner take off. I used the tube portion of a Star Wars Luke Bakta tank. It's an orangey pink colour and as luck would have it, it fits perfectly into the tail cone on the F-16...i mean it's like it was designed for it, a nice snug fit. Further, its weight is just enough so that it tips the F-16 backwards and it rests on the main u/c and the tip of this 'afterburner flame spike' with the nose wheel well off the ground. And it looks pretty good and holds the F-16 in a nice take off pose. All you have to do is pop out this 'flame' and it sits back down on it's nose wheel. Like i said it's like it was designed for it..

Anyway, can anyone answer my questions for me?

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Post by Teamski » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:51 pm

I wouldn't trust the gear unfortunately. Yes it's stronger, but if you set it down and watch it for an hour, you'll see that the wheels start to angle. I figure that they will continue to do so, especially on one of those hot days. I finally just hung mine up. So support the gear!

As far as the sidewinders, I asked the exact same question you did. I thought maybe it was one of those Aim-9Xs or something. I don't think its correct. Anybody else know?

I'm happy you like it Andrew. It is just perfect in my book!! I wouldn't of thought 3 years ago that there would be such a thing in 1:18!!

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Post by stv9000 » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:33 pm

Got my F16 today. well I like it but I am kinda dissapointed in the
fit and finish. The nose cone and the exaust doesn't mach up nicely.
The seet is at the wrong angle in the real one you are practicly laying on your back. The main gear doors are to big so you cant attach anyting
in the middle and it is very tail heavy. I have also found the exact oposite
than every one else on the landing gear. I find my f18 landing to be much
stronger than the f16. If I hold the f16 then lower it on to the table I see the main gear bend out. When I try that with the f18 they are rock solid.
My f18 has been on the ground for some time with no sign of the main gear sagging or flexing.
If you want some great high detail photos of these two planes, do a
google search for " Jet AWA's". Its a must see ![/url]

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