New company getting into the 1:18 game, new F-86 Sabre pics

toyktdlgh · Post by **toyktdlgh** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:52 pm

They probably did hire someone who’s familiar with toy production and is able to help make those important production decisions. The first run will probably have some QC issues but I’m all for supporting a new company. Plenty of toys to go around.

JimBob55 · Post by **JimBob55** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:42 pm

Great recons all around! Boy, WW2 aircraft! Hopefully they will do something new! Their first one, the F-86, is one nobody else has done, so hopefully they will follow suit with a WW2 aircraft.

Although the Dauntless is my hands-down favorite, it is probably down on the market demand. Maybe a Hellcat by Admiral??

JimBob

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:51 pm

Well I put a request in for a F-86 even if its not my favorite craft I'd still like to see them succeed.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:21 pm

I think its funny that people are speculating about "potential" quality control issues of this new company. Give the guys a break. It's not like 21st don't have quality control issues with their planes, and how many years are they in business now?

Nevertheless, if 21st or BBI won't make, or put in the backburner an F-86, (which saw far more combat than the f-104 and more historically significant), I'm glad there's a third party out there willing to jump on the fray.

Now, where's that MiG-15?

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:27 pm

I would like to order a pair, but I feel weird about giving somebody my credit card # like that. I'd rather order through BCT where I know where I stand. Admiral toys looks completely legit, but I can't put money towards a possible no-show. I really want to support these guys, too.....

-Ski

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:20 pm

Here is the response I got from Admiral Toys:

Ladonna Foringer" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "K M " <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: New 1/18 Scale Aircraft
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:27:49 GMT

Thank you for your interest.

We have had many request for an A-10 in 1:18; however, I must regretfully admit that at this time we have no plans on producing the A-10. In the near future it will of course be a major consideration. The size and cost of production has been explored. I can say that it is a very large expensive model to produce. Because of its configuration it requires many molds that would not be required for a conventionally shaped aircraft, and with this extra tooling comes increased cost of production. I hope you understand and I have told many who have requested the A-10 that nothing has been counted out.

Please stick with us as we are a smaller manufacturer. As our popularity grows so will our ability to provide the best A-10 in 1:18 you have ever seen. When and if we manufacture the A-10 it will be the pinnacle model in 1:18 at that time.

Thank you again for your interest and time,

Admiral Toys Incorporated

Sounds like we have another hope for the A-10!!!!

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:35 pm

sounds like Admiral Toys' version of 'wait and see..'

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:07 pm

aferguson wrote:sounds like Admiral Toys' version of 'wait and see..'

Maybe so, but at least they have been researching it and maybe they will hold true to what they say and provide us with the aircraft we want and need.

WGP Klaus · Post by **WGP Klaus** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:55 am

coreystinson wrote:
nfafan wrote: Good that 21C will be less than thrilled.

EDIT - Please don't flame
Well, competition is usually good for the consumer, but also keep in mind that 21st Century has been at this business for awhile and have probably worked many of the kinks out of their processes, where-as these guys will be new on the scene, so hopefully the product quality will be up to the high standards they have set for themselves!

Having been a part of smaller companies competing in a marketplace where larger companies thought they had the monopoly, I can tell you that logistically, it's alot easier to deal with vendors when your product line is limited. 21st has such a wide variety of products, and dealing with production of many items at one time tends to bring overall production down, and halt projects you may have in the wings. If Admiral has all their ducks in a row, it's possible for them to crank out new 1:18 faster than 21st and Bbi, and with their listing only 1:18 ac and 1:72 armor, it will be easier for them, provided of course they've got the "wheels greased" to kick out some excellent new, desired pieces. In regards to quality, being able to focus specifically on one scale, and possibly one era of aircraft, I suspect we'll find the quality to be far better than 21st, and possibly Bbi? time will tell.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:50 am

I hope they do very well. I agree that this could be the chance for items that BBI and 21st have hesitated on to have their day. Hopefully one day where larger aircraft are invloved.

Thrud · Post by **Thrud** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:58 am

Birddog wrote:I hope they do very well. I agree that this could be the chance for items that BBI and 21st have hesitated on to have their day. Hopefully one day where larger aircraft are invloved.

larger aircraft? a PBY perhaps?

mondaytanker · Post by **mondaytanker** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:31 am

F-86. Wasn't that the plane Richard Bong died in as a test pilot?

I'll buy one. Support the sport!

demetrop · Post by **demetrop** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:43 am

No , Bong died when he crashed flying a Lockheed F-80.

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:40 pm

I've sent them an e-mail to get on the pre-order list.

I wish them, and all the 1/18th manufacturers, all the best.

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:02 pm

there are plenty of small planes on my list.
i wish all of them well

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:19 am

French wake up call : i want a mirage !

I wish this new company can make either a MIRAGE 3 or MIRAGE 2000 roughly the same size ! both are small mono engine fighter with great hsitory (middle east & France

)

i'm going to drop them an email too in order to update our wish list ! is there any "amateur" like me ?

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:43 am

that would be nice. really the M-III is not that far out. i love it. but i think they would say not a world wide seller

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:51 pm

KAGNEW wrote:that would be nice. really the M-III is not that far out. i love it. but i think they would say not a world wide seller

I agree. Not when you could produce the F-4, F-15, Tornado, Harrier, F-105, etc...... French fighters don't win a lot of respect.....

-Ski

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:04 pm

A-10......

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:06 pm

Ditto!

..........OOPS!!!!! That's what I meant, an A-10..............sorry!

-Ski

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:50 am

the French fighters got a lot of respect from Arab and Russa's pilots in Israelie hands. plus an M-111 could be made into a Kifier pretty easy

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:16 pm

Xcuse this nasty French habit but our MIRAGES kicks asses : ask the migs pilots around Israel ! plus in flight the design is so neat ( in my opinion the MIRAGE 2000 is only second to the RAFALE

) of course i m a huge fan of all the famous american jets and i know that commercialy the mirage is harder to sell but not that much if you produce a nice MIG 21 to put against the F 104 or the future F4 PHANTOM ? and of course all the mirages family !

plus the size could be compatible with the boxes

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:18 pm

anyway after the F 86 i want an F 100 super sabre ... in French markings with shark teeth !

nfafan · Post by **nfafan** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:18 pm

KAGNEW wrote:the French fighters got a lot of respect from Arab and Russa's pilots in Israelie hands. plus an M-111 could be made into a Kifier pretty easy

Agree. One would have thought that a Mirage/Kfir would have made more historical sense than an F104.
OTOH, they can get many re-paints out of an F104.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:38 am

nfafan wrote:
KAGNEW wrote:the French fighters got a lot of respect from Arab and Russa's pilots in Israelie hands. plus an M-111 could be made into a Kifier pretty easy
Agree. One would have thought that a Mirage/Kfir would have made more historical sense than an F104.
OTOH, they can get many re-paints out of an F104.

For the US and European market, the F-104 was a good decision. F-104s were used by quite a few NATO countries, and Americans will always remember the F-104 from the movie The Right Stuff. IMHO Producing the Mirage would be a disaster. Hell, most of the people looking at a Mirage on the shelf wouldn't even know what plane it was.

-Ski

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New company getting into the 1:18 game, new F-86 Sabre pics

Admiral Toys

i want a MIRAGE !

mind the frenchs

anyway after the F 86 i want an F 100