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Post by normandy » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:29 pm

Matthew, You are an Artist.......I might add a Sculptor. Beautiful work!

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Post by VMF115 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:23 pm

Dude you are a Master!
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Post by pickelhaube » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:59 pm

Again thanks guys.

I think that I almost have the front end done. I need to copy the lamp and the tow hook. As well as the notex light and curb feelers.

I tried to work on the exaust . I tried a candel and heat gun . Both dismal failers. So I will have to cut and glue them to get what I want.

Also I thought about some under vehical running gear. Axel drive shafts transfer case , that kind of thing. But I think that I may pass on that. I will make sure that I have a stout axel and let it go. The only way is to turn the car upside down to see it.

The suspention will be done. You will see that.

Any more opinions on the running gear ?

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Post by pickelhaube » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:15 pm

BTW

There has been several guys who have prepaid.

Cost is $225-$250. I will know for sure when I start casting.

I am accepting pre pays and I ham happy to take lay aways. :wink:

Let me know.
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Post by normandy » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:45 pm

Pickel, Very well done!!!!!! When you have the financial backing, Then I'd consider extra detail on the underside of the 222. :wink: With all the work you've done so far I think you've gone further than any manufacturer in this 1:18th line...............

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Post by normandy » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:31 pm

Pickelhaube, the 222's looking good! When do you think you'll start casting? When you get the price set, let me know and I'll send a money order.
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Post by pickelhaube » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:19 pm

Thanks for the commitment .
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Post by pickelhaube » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:52 pm

This thing is getting close. Just a few more nick nacks and it will be a wrap.

I should have it done before the end of the week. :D :D :D

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Rear view mirror and width gauge a little fuzzy but there.

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Post by Stug45 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:28 pm

Looking really good pickelhaube 8) 8) 8)
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Post by ram04 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:03 am

How long till the production models are out? that thing is awesome, can't wait to see one painted and weathered.

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Post by pickelhaube » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:49 pm

Ok guys here you go. This is over 3 weeks of work :shock:

Next I have to break it all down so I can mount the seats and do some minor internal work.

I probably will not build it up because once I have it torn apart I will start casting the moulds.

I still have 2 more things to do on the exterior. The antenna stub and the brake lines on the bottom frame. Other than that the exterior is DONE !!!!!!

I am still not sure on cost $225- $250. A lot of money but this had been a lot of work. It has taken me over 3 weeks. But it has always been something that I have wanted.

The unfilled lines on the side edge of the body is were the body will seperate.


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It looks pretty close :wink:

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Post by Stug45 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:57 pm

This is a thing of beauty pickelhaube, AWESOME JOB 8) 8) 8)
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Post by jlspec » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:01 pm

Outstanding work

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Post by immeww2 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:08 pm

Looks 8) .

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Post by King O' Fools » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:28 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock:
My hat's off to you, Pickel! You've got some talent in those hands. 8)

Thanks for bringing this to life.

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Post by VMF115 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:33 pm

Holy $hit~~!!!!!!!!!!!!! that looks sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
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Post by grockwood » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:45 am

That is incredable workmanship. Which got me to thinking. How much difference is there between your resin molds and the molds plastic manufacturers such as 21st Century, BBI and FOV use? Have you considered getting in touch with some manufacturer about them producing your stuff? It is every bit as good as the stuff on store shelves currently.

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Post by pickelhaube » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:38 am

grockwood wrote:That is incredable workmanship. Which got me to thinking. How much difference is there between your resin molds and the molds plastic manufacturers such as 21st Century, BBI and FOV use? Have you considered getting in touch with some manufacturer about them producing your stuff? It is every bit as good as the stuff on store shelves currently.
Thanks guys I think this may be my best yet it certaintly took me long enough.

Hey Grockwood.

I talked to a company who made moulds and did ejection moulding.

To put things in perspective . They told me that if I wanted to make a 8" ruler it would cost me $5,000 .

So I would guess for this thing to be made that way would cost about $50,000 to $75,000.

So I need to stick to resin.
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Post by normandy » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:01 am

Pickel, that's just outstanding!!!!!!!

Grockwood, there is a very big difference. RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) rubber molds are used for limited runs. Resin is pored into the mold and then it sets.
Mas production molds are made of metal and plastic (at a high temp.) is injected into the mold.
RTV while expensive is still affordable for model makers, artist, ect...
Injection molds can cost many, many thousands of dollars. If Pickelhaube could financial backing, We'd all have the 1:18th stuff we want. :D

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Post by KWR190 » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:05 am

WOW that looks great. Will these be fully put together and painted or do we to finish them?

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Post by grunt1 » Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:08 am

:shock: 8)

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Post by pickelhaube » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:26 pm

I have been trying to figure out the hinges for the top basket all day and have not come up with anything.

I got some r/c hinges from Dubro and semi put them on and they do not work.

They will work fine if I put them OUTSIDE THE TURRET. That does not work.

So I think what I am going to do is make some little clips that will hold the basket open. It will not open or close but just stay poised in the open positon.

I put the hinges in there , and there is about 1/8th of an inch gap between the basket and the top of the turret . This looks like pooh pooh.

You guys who are buying this any thoughts ?

I have wasted a whole day trying to get this solved with nothing to show except a butcherd basket frame. :evil:

190,

I am building the 222 as an unbuilt kit. But I will be offering some as fully built up a little later on. :wink:
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Post by tmanthegreat » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:40 pm

You could try to do what 21c did on their 1:32 scale SDK 222, but while passable in 1:32, if upscaled to 1:18, their style of hinges would be too large and look terrible.

I like your clips idea.
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Post by normandy » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:57 pm

Pickel, the clips sound fine...you can leave it up to the modeler, the basket can be ether open or closed. I have a 222 kit in 1:35th and its one way or the other it doesn't open or close.
This is a fine looking kit!!!!!

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Post by maritime96 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:30 pm

I agree with the clips. This way we can either build it to be open or closed depending on personal preference.
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