Does the world need a 1/18 scl M-42 Duster or Kubelblitz ?

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:26 pm

I am not sure if this has come up in the past but it has come to my attention that if I can make a new anti aicraft turret for the M-41 it is a whole other tank.

The M-41 was used mainly by the South Vietnamese so it is not that popular of a tank to some collectors. But the Duster was certantly used by the U S in that conflict.

M-42 Duster

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M42-D ... trun-1.jpg

M-41 Bulldog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M41-w ... g-tank.jpg

It looks like some upper deck work may have to be done as well. Unless a new turret will just drop in and that is that

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:39 pm

The world sure can use a M-42 Duster. I'm not sure I would buy a M-41 with simply a new turret dropped in. I think some more changes in the upper body would be in order and I'm not sure other guys would pay for that. I would.......

TTT

ExC17load · Post by **ExC17load** » Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 am

Personally, I would take anything new in 1/18.

Fritzkrieg · Post by **Fritzkrieg** » Tue May 05, 2009 4:24 am

The duster is pretty sweet. They use to have one sitting out side of the local Armory. I don't know If I'd need one for my collection, but I'd love to see the end results.

Have you considered
making an M-60A1 Conversion kit for the Pattton?

I looks like it'd be pretty easy for someone with your skill set.

Razor17019 · Post by **Razor17019** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:25 am

Fritzkrieg wrote:The duster is pretty sweet. They use to have one sitting out side of the local Armory. I don't know If I'd need one for my collection, but I'd love to see the end results.

Have you considered
making an M-60A1 Conversion kit for the Pattton?

I looks like it'd be pretty easy for someone with your skill set.

I like the M-60A1 conversion ideal Fritzkrieg has.
Were the Dusters used in Vietnam?

Panther F · Post by **Panther F** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:48 am

YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!

But it will take more work than just the turret dropped in.

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:14 am

M-42 Dusters were used in VN. I have pics of two used at a USO show (one sitting on either side of the stage) when the VC was active in the area. Those barrels pointing towards the jungle sure kept them quiet (the VC that is).

TTT

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:42 am

Anything new or different in 1/18 scale armor is a welcomed idea. MD has patton tanks for $20. Could stock up and convert some of them.

Tinman · Post by **Tinman** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:56 am

I've wanted an M-42 for years. Even have an extra M-41 sitting in the box, just waiting to be converted. What kind of $ are we talking?

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:43 am

Tinman wrote:I've wanted an M-42 for years. Even have an extra M-41 sitting in the box, just waiting to be converted. What kind of $ are we talking?

With no research and developement I am thinking $65- $95 for the turret guns and minimul deck modification.

I have also been looking at the Kubelblitz. It does not look that hard to do.

But the Mk-IV are getting thin. At least with the Kubel it would be an easy turret swap .

There were 3 of them made. So it was not a paper panzer. So you could paint it a stock 21st color and just swap the turret back and forth for when you are in the mood.

Here is the Kubelblitz in 1/35 scale

http://www.internetmodeler.com/1999/jun ... lblitz.htm

Post by **aferguson** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:46 am

the duster would need virtually a whole new upper hull too. Nice vehicle to have but more than just a turret.

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:57 am

i think they would be great

Razor17019 · Post by **Razor17019** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:58 am

pickelhaube wrote:I have also been looking at the Kubelblitz. It does not look that hard to do.

Here is the Kubelblitz in 1/35 scale

http://www.internetmodeler.com/1999/jun ... lblitz.htm

Kubelblitz - I had a vision of a kubelwagen with a small turret on top of it.
Darn!

Panther F · Post by **Panther F** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:33 am

The Kubelblitz WAS a paper panzer. No record of them in any combat service. The same can be said about the Panther F. No production models were ever completed, just prototypes.

Still cool looking. Modelino is making these for the 1/16th crowd. I'd rather have a Duster.

Tinman · Post by **Tinman** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:31 am

pickelhaube wrote:
Tinman wrote:I've wanted an M-42 for years. Even have an extra M-41 sitting in the box, just waiting to be converted. What kind of $ are we talking?
With no research and developement I am thinking $65- $95 for the turret guns and minimul deck modification.

I have also been looking at the Kubelblitz. It does not look that hard to do.

But the Mk-IV are getting thin. At least with the Kubel it would be an easy turret swap .

There were 3 of them made. So it was not a paper panzer. So you could paint it a stock 21st color and just swap the turret back and forth for when you are in the mood.

Here is the Kubelblitz in 1/35 scale

http://www.internetmodeler.com/1999/jun ... lblitz.htm

I'd support that for the M-42, even if the upper deck was not quite up to specs.

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:07 pm

Panther F wrote:The Kubelblitz WAS a paper panzer. No record of them in any combat service. The same can be said about the Panther F. No production models were ever completed, just prototypes.

Still cool looking. Modelino is making these for the 1/16th crowd. I'd rather have a Duster.

There is a question if they saw service or not. There was 3 of them made.

So they would not be considered paper panzers like the Panther flak and others.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:12 pm

I'm in for the M-42 Duster, even if an upper mod is needed...

Panther F · Post by **Panther F** » Wed May 06, 2009 7:24 am

pickelhaube wrote:
Panther F wrote:The Kubelblitz WAS a paper panzer. No record of them in any combat service. The same can be said about the Panther F. No production models were ever completed, just prototypes.

Still cool looking. Modelino is making these for the 1/16th crowd. I'd rather have a Duster.
There is a question if they saw service or not. There was 3 of them made.

So they would not be considered paper panzers like the Panther flak and others.

The "Panther flak" or Coelian as it's correct name had prototypes built, whether they actually worked or were wooden mock ups still they were made but never saw production either so they are still deemed "paper panzers".

http://users.swing.be/tanks/engins2/13.html#726

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Does the world need a 1/18 scl M-42 Duster or Kubelblitz ?

Does the world need a 1/18 scl M-42 Duster or Kubelblitz ?

Yes we need a Duster!