New BF-109G Profile-Herman Graf

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:17 am

Hey guys,

I posted a profile of the new BF-109G. This is an assumption from the partial picture p51 gave out on the forum. I believe it is the mount of Major Herman Graf, JGr 50.

p51, could you let me know if this is the plane??

Check out the profile in the profile album (just click the website button)

Thanks!

-Ski

ps: I'm still in search of a profile of the BF-109E nightfighter, so if anybody can scan one or find one on the internet, I would be ever so appreciative..........

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:33 pm

Just saw on the BCA website that the picture of the production ME-109G is posted and the preorder will be coming soon! It looks simply awesome and I think I'm in love...

http://www.badcataviation.com/me1by21ces1v.html

So much for the 1 repaint of one aircraft type policy!

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:45 pm

Not too shabby!......I was hoping for a desert (North Afrika) version..
I think this one I might have to get one of each as they roll out. Again I think it may show up at Wally's very soon!...

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:45 pm

There it is!!! So much for secrecy, huh, p51?? hehehehehehe

It is the best looking plane so far. Bravo 21st!!!!

-Ski

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:52 pm

hmm.....not bad. Not my top pick for a paint scheme but as i will probably be getting several of these it's nice to have variety.

Shouldn't be too hard to back date this G to an F model if a desert scheme one comes out (which i suspect it will....Jochim Marsielle anyone?.....(yeah i know i spelled it wrong).

Good to see the big gun pods under the wings...i never noticed them before. A nice bomber killer version. (oops, is it ok to say 'killer'?).

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:53 pm

You know, if the 109G comes out before the start of November, it will be the first time that "adversarys" have released since the P-51 and 109E came out? Ahhh history in the making.......

-Ski

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:57 pm

Afergeson,

you think a desert version will eventually follow?......I was thinking a custom jobbie if I had to!.....the possibilities on this one are huge...so many great pilots were at the helm of this baby it's hard to know where to start!

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:01 pm

i think a desert version is 100% guaranteed to follow at some point. A VERY obvious repaint given that there were early G's in North Africa and that the F and G are very similar in appearance.

And we all know how 21c loves their repaints.

Quixote511 · Post by **Quixote511** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:09 pm

Isn't there a Trop E model already on preorder elsewhere? I don't see much point in having both an E and a G in the same trop scheme for the same pilot.
Aaron

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:23 pm

well first off they wouldn't be in the same scheme. The E has the sand and spinich finish (sand with dark green splotches) and an F or G would be in overall sand. It looks quite different, believe me.

Besides they are two very different aircraft both in appearance and in ability. There are lots of different pilot's planes to chose from, wouldn't have to be the same pilot.

Rogo · Post by **Rogo** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:46 pm

SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL!!!! Thank you 21C!

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:57 pm

Amazing! that is one great looking plane. I also hope that they do an afrika paint scheme. If you look close it appears that the slats on the leading edge of the wing move? Anyone able to confirm if this is true? I also live the detail in that canopy! Love the armor plate headrest. Excellent job 21st.

USCGSARdog · Post by **USCGSARdog** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:56 am

Add that one to my Christmas list!!!!!!!

-Rob

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:47 am

Interesting short bio on Major Graf:

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.com/pilot ... _Graf.html

Rogue · Post by **Rogue** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:00 pm

Damn, Why couldn't it be Hartmann's Black Tulip?
That would have gone well with the signed prints in the Great Room.

Oh well, I like the Rot Tulip as well,

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:02 pm

Rogue,

You've got Hartmann signed prints!?.......can you adopt me please!

mburduck · Post by **mburduck** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:33 pm

It is a nice plane indeed. In fact, it almost has me going against my promise to myself to buy only US 1/18 planes (space limitations, you see).

Mike

dangaroo · Post by **dangaroo** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:47 pm

The paint scheme is funny looking. I'm imagining a monkey flying the plane and clowns holding on to the wings with circus music in the background.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:51 pm

boyx30 wrote:Interesting short bio on Major Graf:

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.com/pilot ... _Graf.html

Thanks for finding that. What an interesting character. Really puts a spin on the paint scheme.........

-Ski

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:55 pm

Teamski,

I hope you wandered around that site a little bit very interesting stuff!

Also, yes the the "RED NOSE" has a certain amount or irony to it!...it's unfortunate that only after they're gone does the entire story surface and what was perceived isn't always the case.

on a side note: You may want to check out the book "Doorknob52" written by a p-38 pilot...he has a very interesting site (run word "Doorknob52")
I've corresponded with this man...he's definitly worth a look...he's also currently selling some of his stuff on ebay. Not to mention he's the subject of a documentary that will be released shortly....

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:57 pm

I'm surprised this hasn't stirred more excitement?.....potentially the best plane they've created to date...add in a russian YAK or LAGG...better yet a russian Hurricane (of course with the battle of britain repaint to follow) and viola you're got the Battle of Kurske on your own ceiling!.....

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:56 pm

We're all excited about it, but with all of the stuff hitting us at once, it's hard to single out one awesome plane from the rest!!! The bbi P-51 is soooo close to release, it's getting the limelight right now. I'm sure when the Graf 109 hits the shelves, it will create it's own ripples!!

-Ski

Waltz41 · Post by **Waltz41** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:20 pm

hey boyx30,
i've read doorknob, very good book. it's a nice little package he has up for sale on ebay, reasonably priced too. don't mean to change topic or anything, just wanted to chime that in.

and yes, this and the rest of the new planes look amazing coming out! i think with this bf 109 and the bbi mustang the bar has definitley been lifted up for both these companies.

brian

Rogo · Post by **Rogo** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:15 pm

Ah Boyx30,

I haven't stopped drooling over this plane since it first appeared. I'm just anxiously awaiting it's arrival at Wallymart.
Now, as was mentioned earlier, we'll also need a repaint with Hartmann's Black Tulip 'White 1', Marseille's Trop 'Yellow 14' (thought I think this was an F model), and Bartel's 'Red 13'. Hubba hubba...

Rogo

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:11 pm

Now thats what I'm talking about!.....I agree the other stuff hitting the scene is very cool...that BBI P-51 takes the cake so to speak!!!!

Grunt, Thank you for that reply..I actually got the package from ebay and am currently reading the book..it is a very good read...I'm glad someone else out there has read it too!...Fred Arnold is a very interesting guy I've been able to have some e-mail correspondance with him lately....
Have you looked at his site?...

Small Scale Military Headquarters

New BF-109G Profile-Herman Graf

New BF-109G Profile-Herman Graf

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Hermann Graf bio:

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Hermann Graf Bio:

did the ME 109G somehow get overshadowed?

thanks guys...