Complete Novice Questions

dandaman · Post by **dandaman** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:48 pm

These questions will reveal me to be a complete novice. These may be embarassing, but here goes...

1) What theater is the FOV 1:18 Bradley (green paint scheme) supposed to be depicting? Obviously the tan paint scheme is for places like Iraq...

2) I know very little about modern US uniforms. The FOV 1:18 US marines are wearing a tan camo pattern and the US army guys are wearing a green camo pattern. Is this typical for deployment to distinguish between units? In Iraq, wouldn't both branches wear the tan camo pattern?

3) What are the most common modern US fighting vehicles of today? The Bradley, the Humvee, the Abrams, and that personnel carrier thingy? (See, I don't even know its name.)

4) Totally unrelated question: did anyone ever produce one of those Soviet helicopters featured in Rambo 3 in the 1:18 scale? That would be really cool with all the guns and missiles and stuff. It would be huge too.

Thanks in advance.

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:07 pm

1. When the Brad was first made it was to fight against the Ruskies in Europe thus the camo.
2. Again all of the camos were of green color to fight in Europe. Then the war came up in the Middleeast.
3. The thingy is a armerd personal carrier.
4. I think you are talking about the Hind. It sure would be nice to have in 1/18 scale . But I am sure that will never see the light of day.

dandaman · Post by **dandaman** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:30 pm

1. When the Brad was first made it was to fight against the Ruskies in Europe thus the camo.

In Europe huh? The Cold War is so...yesterday. It's hard to imagine now.

2. Again all of the camos were of green color to fight in Europe. Then the war came up in the Middleeast.

So they have had that particular camo scheme since the late 1980s? It looks very mid-90s to me, almost 21st century...but I probably don't know what I'm talking about. Anyways, is the green camo just for training then?

parrish333 · Post by **parrish333** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:56 pm

dandaman wrote:These questions will reveal me to be a complete novice. These may be embarassing, but here goes...

1) What theater is the FOV 1:18 Bradley (green paint scheme) supposed to be depicting? Obviously the tan paint scheme is for places like Iraq...

2) I know very little about modern US uniforms. The FOV 1:18 US marines are wearing a tan camo pattern and the US army guys are wearing a green camo pattern. Is this typical for deployment to distinguish between units? In Iraq, wouldn't both branches wear the tan camo pattern?

3) What are the most common modern US fighting vehicles of today? The Bradley, the Humvee, the Abrams, and that personnel carrier thingy? (See, I don't even know its name.)

4) Totally unrelated question: did anyone ever produce one of those Soviet helicopters featured in Rambo 3 in the 1:18 scale? That would be really cool with all the guns and missiles and stuff. It would be huge too.

Thanks in advance.

1) Pretty much covered already...

2) Marines wear the MCCUU:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Cor ... ty_Uniform

Comes in woodlands or desert versions.

Army wears the ACU:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform

Comes in one standard "universal" camo version.

3) There's tons of different vehicles - I'm sure I'll forget many, but the main ones that come to mind beyond what you mentioned are the M113 APC (not sure these still see much combat), the Stryker, the LAV, the AAVP, and more recently the MRAPs.

This link has lots of good info:
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/usw ... stems.html

4) Yeah, that would be the most excellent Mi-24 Hind. See link:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-24.htm

Many of us would LOVE a Hind in 1:18, but nobody's ventured down that road yet (in fact I think the Mig-15 is the only Russian anything I can think of in 1:18!).

chunks · Post by **chunks** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:00 pm

The US has forces in ~130 countries (see http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... yments.htm).
The uniform of choice would be based on local conditions, weather, season, etc. Also each branch has determined which pattern (not overall colour) works best for them.

Grilledcheese · Post by **Grilledcheese** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:44 am

A quick note on the helicopter gunship in Rambo 3:
The aircraft used was obviously not a real Hind, but a Aerospatiale Puma doctored up to sorta kinda somewhat look like Hind.
While there are lots of surplus Hinds floating around these days (heck, even the U.S. Army has at least three to use in wargames) I'm guessing there weren't any real ones available to the movie production team in 1988.

And I would most definitely pick one up in 1/18 scale.

Jeffrey

grockwood · Post by **grockwood** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:57 pm

The three color camo is a standerdized NATO scheme. The US adopted it around the early 80's. Prior to that there were two or three four color schemes that depended on the season. I believe the Germans are still using the NATO scheme on their equipment. US peacekeepers in Bosnia and Kosovo and US forces in western Europe still use the three color scheme.

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