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| Who wishes the new M17 Trailer had been a Kettenkrad? |
| Kettenkrad w/ Fallshirmjager driver |
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| M17 Trailer w/ crewmember |
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grunt1
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 Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: M17 Finds and Discussion and Ketenkrad poll thread |
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Poll says it all..
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exether_mega
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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M-17 Quad 50 cal. trailer with crew have my voice !
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tmanthegreat
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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A Kettenrad would have been much cooler - and more useful in certain respects 
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: Kettenkrad ! |
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............ also ,.. a "no brainer" , too ! ... + =
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Morian Miner
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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I can also wish I won the lottery last night. But, I didn't, and we're getting an M-17. Things could be worse.
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GooglyDoogly
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| The sad thing is, if this trailer doesn't sell well, then 21st will use that as an axample of how "armor" doesn't sell well.... |
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Threetoughtrucks
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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The quad trailer with a gunner would be neat.
Googly is right, 21C cancelled the 1/6 scale after offering us a 1/9 tank and a Hunvee with problems and they said 1/6 doesn't sell......pleassssseee  .
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tmanthegreat
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| GooglyDoogly wrote: | | The sad thing is, if this trailer doesn't sell well, then 21st will use that as an axample of how "armor" doesn't sell well.... |
Hopefully it will sell well, but given that it is priced high for such a small piece - afterall, the Pak-40 gun was only $22 last year as were the halftracks - then many trailers will just sit around. I can't see the average parent wanting to pay $30 for a toy trailer, even if it has a figure and gun turret
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immeww2
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Trailers seem to be the backend of a product. It's like buying the trailer of a big rig without buying the cab first. I don't see this trailer as selling too well. The $30 price tag doesn't help either. |
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VMF115
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I say sell the trailer with a half trak, or a duce.
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Spudkopf
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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As long as the M-17 comes with something decent to tow it, like a 2 1/2 ton WW II (GMC, Studebaker or International) 6x or even better a M35 I really can't see a problem.
But seeing the above is so unlikely to happen............ I have to admit I just love the Kettenkraftrad.
But if an M35 did surface then milliseconds later I would have the quad remounted on the flatbed of the truck ala Vietnam Gun-truck style.
As for the vote, I chose not to, seeing that the M17 is a reality while the Kettenkraftrad like the A-10 is merely a dream.
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MG-42
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| GooglyDoogly wrote: | | The sad thing is, if this trailer doesn't sell well, then 21st will use that as an axample of how "armor" doesn't sell well.... |
>>> This is not necessarily true and I have to disagree. ... Just because a certain item does'nt sell well does'nt mean it's the end of 1:18 armor and it's going to kill it.
21st. may realize they may have made a bad judgement call on it , and carry on , like they should.
These products are a matter of opinion and personal interest. ... Same goes for 1/6 or anything else , for that matter.
I believe 21st. knows what they think will sell well and what won't. ... Just give'r time , we can't have everything now , as much as we'd like to.
This is far from the end , Ladies & Gentlemen. ................... Carry on 21st. !
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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This just up at the Lone Sentry site....
German Kettenkrad tractor Sd.Kfz. 2
http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt07/kettenkrad.html
This article originally appeared in Tactical and Technical Trends, No. 19, February 25, 1943.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: armor |
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| GooglyDoogly wrote: | | The sad thing is, if this trailer doesn't sell well, then 21st will use that as an axample of how "armor" doesn't sell well.... |
I hear it sells great and that a few other companies are releasing new armor soon...
I think both Mike and 21C have said a number of times that no matter what we want to believe, AC outsells armor in multiples.
If people want a Kett we should put it in a poll with a Zundapp, an Opel, a Higgins, a Deuce & a half and a US Howitzer and see how it shakes out with other items that would require all new molds.. |
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c44
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: When life deals lemons, squeeze into glass of vodka... |
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In short, I'm happy 21CT is offering the M-17 and hope they'll continue to occasionally give us less than obvious (and maybe even some exotic) choices...and whatever they release, if it ain't my cup of tea, I don't hafta drink it...
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pickelhaube
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: |
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I have almost eveything made in 1/18 scale. I have up to 6 or more on some pieces. Tanks, planes, cars and trucks. The trailer will not be in my collection when they come out unless they go on sale for $1.
I voted for the Kettlel.
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ostketten
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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I agree that the trailer seems kinda useless as a stand alone piece without something to hitch it up to, especially considering we already have the Quad .50 halftrack. I suppose you could hitch the trailer to some other vehicle, a 3/4 ton weapons carrier for example, it has a hitch of sorts on the back although it doesn't appear to be a functional one, but that's nothing any modeler worth his salt couldn't overcome. Maybe there is a deuce and a half in waiting in the shadows to pull this thing??
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: hey |
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| Grunt, did you add a FJ pack-in or was that always there?? Sure makes it harder to not vote for the Kett.. |
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scbvideoboy
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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I voted for the Sturmgeschutz III...oh wait was that on the poll?
I haven't seen one yet, but I'll buy it now, so in a few years when everybody is looking for it... aka the late Kubelwagen.
What's wrong with the current trucks we have now?
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Spudkopf
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| scbvideoboy wrote: | I voted for the Sturmgeschutz III...oh wait was that on the poll?
I haven't seen one yet, but I'll buy it now, so in a few years when everybody is looking for it... aka the late Kubelwagen.
What's wrong with the current trucks we have now?
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To put it simply they are all too small to tow such a large trailer, it would be like trying to tow a PaK40 behind a Kubelwagen or for a SdKfz 251 to tow an 88, neither are rated to so.
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