Admiral/ Bad Cat's new aircraft in 1:18

Quixote511 · Post by **Quixote511** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:42 pm

I like the F4. Though, I think I am going to hold off pre-ordering. I am going to wait to see if someone else will come up with a Navy scheme.

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:08 pm

Nice pic of your dad and the A-4. I can't wait for the F-4. However, I wish it was a F-14. I Thought all along it would be a F-4 because of the Douglas connection.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:09 pm

Thanks for sharing the pic Tman. Admiral's F-4 would make quite a nice gift for him at Christmas..

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:17 pm

Thanks for the nice comments about my dad's photo

It is one of my favorites of him, though its a bit dated, having been taken in the early 1980s

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:19 pm

What did your dad think of the F-4? Any stories you could share with us from his flying days with the Phantom?

chunks · Post by **chunks** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:19 pm

tmanthegreat wrote:Thanks for the nice comments about my dad's photo It is one of my favorites of him, though its a bit dated, having been taken in the early 1980s

Hahumm, than that would explain the haircut.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:22 pm

I would get four of them. Deferent paint schemes of course
and tmanthegreat thanks for the pic, I bet your dad would love one also.

Ok Jason so where are the pics?

Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:22 pm

Quixote511 wrote:I like the F4. Though, I think I am going to hold off pre-ordering. I am going to wait to see if someone else will come up with a Navy scheme.

I don't think you will have to worry the F4-C is very close to the Navy's F4-B with only a few differences ab F4-E or G is my in Israeli markings would be one I'd like to see. You can also make Egyptian, Iranian, Turkish and Greek Versions as well.

Coreyeagle48 · Post by **Coreyeagle48** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:40 pm

An F-4 is a very exciting piece of news and I am grateful we are seeing this type of airplane. It is well known in many parts of the world and many people fondly remember this particular airplane. I think the Germans still fly it if I am not mistaken.

Now that an F-4 has been produced I can only think that an F-14 and F-15 are not far off. Wouldn't hurt to see the A-4 and a few MIG's too. Though, I am not sure how well MIGS would sell to the full market other than us collectors. An A-10 is a logical choice as well. Kudos to Admiral for making these airplanes and really extending the level of this collecting world. I gotta say it, I NEED MORE ROOM.

As for a B-25, I personally think any world war II twin engine airplane will cost more than $140. When I built my 1/32 B-25, the kit bashing and work on the kit alone cost about twice that. And my plane does not have retractable gear or working control surfaces. I am guessing a 1/18 B-25 would run about $200. But I believe it's a possiblity one day too!

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:42 pm

Once again, from Admiral Toys in New York City at the 2007 Toy Fair...

Heeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee's the PHANTOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope you guys enjoy. Once again, thank you Admiral Toys.

Keep your eyes open on the Skyraider thread for more pictures of it!!!!

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:44 pm

sweet GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT

Thank you Bird Dog

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:47 pm

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:52 pm

Got the picture to work instead of posting a link..... ..

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:58 pm

Birddog wrote:Thanks for the help VMF115, I'm working on getting better picture posting capabilities...

No problem, the pics are great!!!!!!!

Are you at Toy Fair?

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:03 pm

Sadly no.

I'm helping with it by remote.

Jolly Roger · Post by **Jolly Roger** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:04 pm

wow there goes 140$ outta my wallet!

Thanks Jason for appeasing us "Modern" boys!!!

SWEET!

one of my top choices..

all thats left is A10,F14,Harrier,F22 and ... A6!

JimBob55 · Post by **JimBob55** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:17 pm

AWESOME!!! Way to go (again!!)!

I'll take mine in Navy markings when it is available.

Thanks again, Jason and Admiral!!

(BTW: This plane was used by the Blue Angels AND the Thunderbirds!)

JimBob

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:22 pm

Yes, the next BCA exclusive needs to be the California ANG edition..

Too cool.. Thanks for sharing the photo Tman!

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:16 pm

Whatever scheme is chosen, it's going to be one heck of an awesome aircraft to see when completed.....

KAMIKAZE · Post by **KAMIKAZE** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:03 pm

Pretty damn cool Jason. Looks like we have another great year for 1/18th aircraft. Nice going.

Mark

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:27 pm

Just seeing that Phantom mould next to the ME-262 puts that plane's size into perspective. It would take up my whole little display table, and I'd be afraid to hang it on the ceiling

Spudkopf · Post by **Spudkopf** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:28 am

G’day All

Now that I am home I have had a chance to research the F4C in a little more detail, the F4C was built from 1963 through 1964 (except for serial 62-12199) and the total production was 635 aircraft.

The F4D is almost identical externally as the changes were mainly cockpit orientated to enhance the air to ground and air to air capabilities of the aircraft. So with next to no alterations the F4D can also be represented by this model. F4D production was from 1965 to 1966 and total production for this type was 741 aircraft.

Using the same un-slotted wings but adding the centreline under chin gun would allow early production F4E (as used by the RAAF under a lease agreement while waiting the delayed delivery of the F111C) to also be created from this model.

I have no suitable references for the NAVY/MARINE type of this aircraft or for that matter the types used but the RAF and the RN but I am sure the F4C with little alteration could also represent these types as well.

One detail that stands out on the F4 C’s and D’s in my reference is the huge amount of stencilling applied to these aircraft by the USAF, as the this image of a F4E demonstrates.

Click on the link below to go to a HiRes image of this picture to see what I mean.

http://www.daveagema.com/images/HiRes/F4.jpg

Hope this helps fuel the anticipation just a little more

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:40 am

yeah that Phantom will be a plaster cracker for sure.....i bet it will weigh nearly double the BBI F-18.

Spudkopf · Post by **Spudkopf** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:50 am

Ooopps

I have just noticed that the IR sensor under the nose is actually the one for a F4D version of the Phanton.

Acording to "in detail & scale F-4 Phantom II Part 1" this bulge is one of the few external visual differnces between the C and D models of the F4. As you can see above the D model bulge is clearly evident on the C model there should be no bulge here as the refernce picture below show.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0775834/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1108017/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1155471/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1154743/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0977171/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0782055/L/

Sorry to point this out

jeffrowse · Post by **jeffrowse** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:16 am

Spudkopf wrote:
I have no suitable references for the NAVY/MARINE type of this aircraft or for that matter the types used but the RAF and the RN but I am sure the F4C with little alteration could also represent these types as well.

The RAF/RN versions used the Rolls Royce Spey engines, which meant a complete re-working of the rear fuselage from the nice curved lines of the US Phantoms' area-ruled fuselage to a straighter mounting tunnel and larger "pop-open" panels towards the rear of the tunnels (one each aboe and below th e
Whilst the Brit's tail was only a little bit uglier than the standard shape's aerodynamically-sweet rear end, the extra thrust gained by fitting the more powerful Speys was lost in the extra effort needed to push the less streamlined shape through the air.
Most other changes were the replacement of American internal systems with their British "equivalents" - the overall effect being that, for most peole, merely removing the under-nose "attachements" and changing the colour scheme for the British ones should be enough to fool most people...

Of course, the biggest difference between the Spey and non-Spey models was that the "normal" powerplant ( I think it was the J-79?) left a lovely great smoketrail behind it...

As noted elsewhere, the 'E was the first Phantom with a built-in gun under the nose but all models were capable of carrying a podded cannon (or three) - normally the standard Vulcan. It also introduced the tailplane leading-edge slats and a variety of other aerodynamic improvements brought about following experience during the air war in Vietnam.

The hardest "straight" conversion would be to the F4F as flown by the Luftwaffe - these did not have the belly-mount troughs for the AIM-7 Sparrow as it was felt that the German birds should not need medium-range missiles - if longer-range warshots were needed, the German aircraft would be in company with other nations' aircraft that did carry medium- or longe-range missiles.
Converting to a recon bird or the F4G Wild Weasel would be even more entertaining - lengthened noses and/or fuselages, plus the other "lumps and bumps" required will keep some of us happy for hours...