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1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:37 pm
by Jackson
Pre- Decal application... all weathering by Jackson... white washpaint Tulip nose-yellow under cowling and yellow fuselage band all painted by gliderdwm http://community.webshots.com/user/VEXDEC

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:09 pm
by Dauntless
Nice! 8)

Looking forward to the progress on this.

The Hartmann should have been done by 21st or BBI, but alas. :?

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:54 pm
by Jnewboy
I tell you that tupip on the nose is hard to perfect, yours looks closer than mine to the real thing but a bit wide, I had the opposite problem a few years back when I did this one. (to thin)
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Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:17 pm
by Jackson
Tulip was painted from actual foto of his Feb. '45 and gliderdwm got it real close...yer is sweet...does yer have the Karaya arrow heart on it ? The Usch no arrow heart is the one in foto I have.... http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/pho ... 1694QeIRuG also his double chevron is somewhat fatter on this bird http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/pho ... 1694QyLuKU

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:09 pm
by Dauntless
Nice as well jnewboy. 8)
Where'd you get that G-12 canopy? Are you going to put one on yours as well jackson?

So any of you guys done the non-winter version, and is it a tougher one to paint or get accurate with all that's going on with the Euro German schemes and their nuances?

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:34 pm
by Jackson
as much as I like the G12 canopy I'm gonna stick with original G6 canopy since the bird is a G6 he was flyin and I cant find any actual fotos showing that bird with a G12 canopy just profiles have it shown as such...he probably did have a G12 on it at that late point in war due to it's better visibility aspect but Hartmann like to get in close and personal when he was after you so his front view window was his main concern..

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:36 pm
by Jackson
jnewboy is that Hartmann bird of yers 1/18th ?

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:20 pm
by Jnewboy
Yes sir! its 1/18, sold it a few years back, and yes its the heart with the arrow and blood drops. As to the canopy I cheated... If you all remember the first issue of the 109e's (white 12) some had that canopy, so I swapped it out. The tall tail is the hardest portion of mine. I have made two Hartmans, the white one came out better but Im learning and this year I will be doing another. Here's my first.
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Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:24 pm
by thehun
I think everyone has done a Hartmann, Mine from several years back
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Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:36 pm
by Jnewboy
Looks great buddy!! love the Hartmann figure!!!

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:02 pm
by thehun
It was raining that day in Russia ....he's all wet

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:03 pm
by Jackson
lookin good fellas...ya need to-as gliderdwm has done and shave them wheel locks down to give landing gear the proper stance...21'st failed miserably on that part havin them stand up strait...would of been an easy mod at the factory... this has always been favorite Hartmann Eagle...mine will have the Red with White outline Heart with Usch within it..will not sell this bird it's part of the collection for good...will letcha know when I got her all marked up and in addition lil more weathering as seen in fotos...TJJ

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:15 pm
by snake
All three of them look great. Good work you guys.

A shame 21 Century never did Hartmann. Seems like one of the most obvious Me 109's to do.

Ironically, I just received today the Corgi 1/32 Hartmann. 8) It is tough to find, and got it for a reasonable price.

Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:16 pm
by Jnewboy
My next one will be as close as possible to this one:
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Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:58 pm
by gliderdwm
I think he must have flown 2 different White 1 versions. The one I did is definitely correct and does not come with the arrow through the heart. Definitely a G6 and possibly Jnewboy the one in your last picture. I am happy with the one I did. Camo probably not historically correct but I will keep it. I shpuld have done the tulips different also and I did better job on the winter one to get them accurate. I have also seen wingtips with yellow and without and underside front also both ways.

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Re: 1/18th Hartmanns Eagle Feb. 1945

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:44 pm
by Jackson
lookin thru ref books I have according to Claes Sundins Hartmann profile It was his Yellow 1 bird of Oct. '43 that had his kill wreath on rudder- 9./JG52 4TH Gruppen marking behind fuselage white outline balkankreuze- then his Aug. '44 bird 9./JG52 4TH Gr. has no kill wreath- both birds have the arrow Karaya arrow heart- slightly larger Heart on his Aug. '44 bird plus a black/white balkankrueze...profiles are notoriously inaccurate/embellished...thats why I try to go from period fotos to confirm and if they are not available then pick yer poison as far as profiles go...again I know the bird you did is correct because of foto gliderdwm...not to diminish anybody elses they are all magnificent models that you fellas have done...will be decalin mine up next day or 2 then will post link to it....TJJ