JSI Tomcat - Super Detailing???

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JSI Tomcat - Super Detailing???

Post by deankleines » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:17 am

Anyone interested in taking this bird to a whole new level???

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Post by Folkwulfe » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:34 pm

Absolutely!!!
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Post by tmanthegreat » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:02 pm

You mean to say this already most-highly-detailed of 1:18 planes is not detailed enough :P
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Re: JSI Tomcat - Super Detailing???

Post by GooglyDoogly » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:45 pm

deankleines wrote:Anyone interested in taking this bird to a whole new level???
Buy me a 2nd one, and I'll post a build thread here. :)

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Post by Folkwulfe » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:59 pm

Dude!!! Stop smoking that stuff. It'll grow hair in you ears!
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Post by Folkwulfe » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:28 pm

Well...the enevitable happened this morning. I went to prep the Tomcat for spot removal, and when I picked her up, the left main gear came apart. Snapped clean in two above the data plate decal and broke the scissor hinge. Tires, hinge pins, springs and parts scattered all across the table and carpet (of coarse it had to be deep pile carpet) but I found everything. Must have broken the last time I put her down and didn't even know it until now. Looks like my first "super detail" job is rebuilding the main gear ALOT stronger than the original. Wish me luck guys....I'm going in!!!
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Preliminary photos of cockpit with seats removed

Post by deankleines » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:40 pm

Here are some shots of the cockpit with the canopy extended to full up and the seats removed. I am doing initial planning of the mods and enhacements that will be made to the cockpit. Watch this thread for details and progress.

Please e-mail me if you have questions or ideas.

Thanks,

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Post by aeo178 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:06 pm

Try adding lights and two small fans for jet intake.

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Post by Aviatornut.com » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:32 pm

DEVGRU nice latter!! did you do that? can you build a kit?

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Benchmarking 1:18 F-14 Visual Standards

Post by deankleines » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:14 pm

Hey JSI F-14 crowd - What if I could make mine look like this?????

http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=6194

I would be so thrilled!!!!!

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New Nose Strut Oleo

Post by deankleines » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:35 pm

Just replaced the nose strut oleo with a section of telescoping tv antenna.

So awesome looking!

Front strut dissassembles - take care.



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Post by aeo178 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:01 pm

Thats a hell of a job

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Post by supersonicfifi » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:36 am

great landing gear !!!!

I was reading with much interest the subject about the "Small" wonder of this 1/32 tomcat : http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=6194&page=3

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Now i am thinking more and more to make a conversion to F 14 D model does anybody want to give me two BBI F 16 for me to cut their nozzles ?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe we should look for a customizer to do the nozzles ?

and by the way what is the differences between a JSI F 14 A and a late model ? ( the main differences .... i allready know the engine + nose camera ..) :?:
1/18 mirage 2000 & RAFALE should i say more ?

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Post by pcoughran » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:00 pm

Has anyone tried fixing the Vert. Stab. "cant" issue? I've heard in the past hair dryers could be used to heat the part up. Was wondering if you could put something between the stabilizers to hold them at the right angle then heat with a hair dryer and let cool at the proper cant/angle.
I'm afraid the paint might be affected though. Anyone else ever try this before on something similar?
Any thoughts?
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Post by Folkwulfe » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:13 pm

The difference between an F-14A and the A+ or D models are many. Most of the changes were suttle, but several are large and "in your face". Some of the most promenant changes were the afterburner cans, the beaver tail, and the TCS/TVS system under the chin. Most of the A+ and D models also deleted the "glove vane" that pops out above the engine intakes. A couple of small ECM antennas were added around the airframe too. I could get real technical, but I don't think that's what you had in mind.
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Post by supersonicfifi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:38 am

yes a simple transformation of the engine + paint + Camera under chin should do the trick !
1/18 mirage 2000 & RAFALE should i say more ?

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Post by Black Lion VF-213 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:10 am

To make JSI's Tomcat into a "D", whoa. You're talking alot of changes. Some easy, some hard.

Easy:
1. Sand the ECM bumps under the wing glove. Some "D" models (when the "D" first came out) had the bumps. By the time of the Iraq war, all of them were gone. This would depend on which squadron flying a "D" one would want to do.
2. The bumps on a "D" beaver tail could be made with some molding putty.
3. The NACA gun vents are the same for the "B" and the "D" and late "A" models like JSI's F-14
4. The antenna on the left front gear door (the ochored color bump) would remain the same.
5. The main landing gear wheels on the JSI are for earlier "A" models. The A model has triangular shaped holes kinda like old mag wheels on Jeep CJ7's. The "D" model has round holes. A small drill bit in a pin vise might do the trick on cutting the groove correctly.
6. Antennas on the spine. The “D” has slightly different shape/length antennas on the backside. Most likely you could sand the existing ones into correct shape/size.
7. GPS bump on spine. A little round piece on the center of the spine would do the trick.
8. The D model uses the same BOL sidewinder rails as JSI’s Cat. No change there.
9. Some “D” models had the green colored glass in the windscreen like JSI’s some didn’t. No change there.

Medium:
1. Gluing in the wing glove vanes and filling in the area with putty and sanding smooth. Then rescribing the panel lines to match above and below.
2. The TCS/TVS would have to be scratch built. It might be the easiest part to build. Evergreen and Plastruct make all kinds of styrene tubes of various diameters along with solid styrene rods. Two equal sized in diameter tubes fused together and cut and sanded to match the basic shape would be a start. Then molding putty to fill in the spaces, drilling out where the camera goes. Clear styrene in that hole, and round the infrared tracker nose and paint gloss black. Pretty much that would be it.

Hard:
1. The cockpit. The “A” vs “D” has differences like the control panel and the ejection seats. One would have to remove the control panels and seats and scratch build all new ones. Yikes
2. The engine fairings and the exhaust petals. One would have to completely cut out the old fairing and take the petals with it. From what I can see the nozzles/petals off the BBI F-16 are too large since that plane is overscaled. This would be the most difficult of all the scratch building. If you really wanted to go overboard you could scratch build the turbine blades like the “D”, just like our forum friend from Greece is doing to his F-16. Very hard!

All of this would pretty darn difficult on the present JSI F-14. If they do release a kit version, then some of this gets a little easier. Especially if one wanted to do an early “A”. Scratch building old grill style gun vents would be easier if you could hold the left side of the front fuselage in one’s hand or in a vise clamp and cut out the old vents and cement glue in a new piece made from styrene.

Good luck on anyone attempting to convert their’s. We can’t wait to see a 1/18 Super Tomcat!!

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Hello Super Kitty - Super Detailing The Cockpit

Post by deankleines » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:31 pm

Took about an hour to carefully take apart the nose section.

Awestruck at the engineering and quality that went into this!!!!!

Here is the pit - ready for super detailing!!!

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Re: Hello Super Kitty - Super Detailing The Cockpit

Post by Ferrari250GTO » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:34 pm

deankleines wrote: Here is the pit - ready for super detailing!!!
Must say, it does not look like it can be super detailed much more! Well, I am sure there is some stuff that can be done, but for coming from the factory like this, simply amazing stuff.

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ladder

Post by Coreyeagle48 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:16 pm

Greetings:

Used some small plastic parts to make a simple ladder. It is not as sophiscated as DEVGRU's but it gets the job done and looks ok. Needs to be painted yet.

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JSI Tomcat Improvements

Post by mcaulk » Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:50 pm

In spite of some teething problems the JSI Tomcat is amazing at least for size and general detail. There are a few thing that are relatively easy to do that will improve the big cats over all appearance.

First the air intakes are way to thick. Fairly easy to remedy just a pain in the &^%$(///1

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Another detail that gets left off almost all Tomcat models is the gasket in the wing glove area. Easy to add with Everygreen stock.

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An area that often gets overlooked are the seams. These big display models are like assembled kits but the seams are unfilled. It is not hard to do just a pain in the &^%$(///1 but the results greatly improve the appearance.

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Post by bushande » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:20 am

supersonicfifi wrote:great landing gear !!!!

I was reading with much interest the subject about the "Small" wonder of this 1/32 tomcat : http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=6194&page=3

Now i am thinking more and more to make a conversion to F 14 D model does anybody want to give me two BBI F 16 for me to cut their nozzles ?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe we should look for a customizer to do the nozzles ?

and by the way what is the differences between a JSI F 14 A and a late model ? ( the main differences .... i allready know the engine + nose camera ..) :?:
To be honest I am sooooo thinking about a Delta-Conversion of my Tomcat.

Everything on that Jet says "upgrade"-

All the antennas are there, it has BOL rails, the modern style gunvents. Everything regarding the necessary exterior for an upgrade is there.

All I need would be the GE-motors, the nose pode and and the seats / cockpit.

Anyone else thinking about a conversion?

Maybe somebody here around has already an idea on how to do it?

Any good input would be most appreciated.

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Main Strut Rebuild

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