Small Scale Military Headquarters

I hope this is no one from here that did this because I am about to rip on it a bit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Collectable-Rar ... 4ab0f28159

If you have plans to do a destroyed vehicle, please reference actual photos of destroyed vehicles. I think we have the old Call of Duty and Medal of Honor games to thank for destroyed vehicles depicted like this. If you don't follow, on those games, after you destroyed a tank, the thing would morph into this twisted barrel, smashed looking heap of junk. In my years of looking at WWII AFV pictures, destroyed or not, I have never seen a vehicle with a bent barrel. Destroyed barrel from charge detonation, yes, out of battery from internal hydraulics failure, sure, but never a "got stepped on by Godzilla" bent barrel.

So please, if you plan on doing a destroyed vehicle custom, don't do what this person did. Feel free to punch holes, chip zimmerit, burn rubber road wheels, etc, but at least use some reference material and do a decent job. And definitely don't do what this person did and try to charge $150 for it...



-Kevin

* What a piece of crap ... Even at the age of 8 or 9 when I started to build models , I never did anything like that. No wonder there's no bids. That's not even realistic battle damage.


- MG

I'm tempted to ask the seller the classic yes-no question: Do your parents know you're an idiot?

WOW. The giant hole on the turret looked like it had been hit with a 5 inch naval gun.

Looks to me like he just got a model from a "bad batch" QC-wise and is trying to palm it off as his work.

Looks like a 5 year old did that!

That barrel has ED.

Lol, he lowered the price to $99...


-Kevin

I pm'ed the seller with this:

Dear ww2fanlucci,

If you can post one actual photo of any tank with a bent barrel like your model people might start bidding on it. A large number of us are discussing your "incredible life like real battle scared details" simply because we've never seen such damage on any battle-damaged vehicle.

Good luck, though.

He answered thusly:

Dear brekinapez,

Thank you! Thats why its "original". The main gun was hit by a Pershing 105 mm shell that caused it to bend from the impact and very close range that also blew off the front wheel. In war there are NO rules that say you must shoot the enemy in the exact same spot every time. I never said it was copied from a real photo.

- ww2fanlucci

Actually it might just be possible that the gun could have been twisted like that because of extreme heat, like if it was next to a lot of burning vehicles or gasoline.

Heer wrote:Actually it might just be possible that the gun could have been twisted like that because of extreme heat, like if it was next to a lot of burning vehicles or gasoline.

Some commando parachuted onto the tank with a blowtorch and went to work.

Heer wrote:Actually it might just be possible that the gun could have been twisted like that because of extreme heat, like if it was next to a lot of burning vehicles or gasoline.

I should think enough heat to warp the barrel would have burnt off all the paint as well as burn away the wooden handles of the tools on the upper hull.

Plus, gravity being what it is and all that, wouldn't the bend be downwards?

[CAT]CplSlade wrote:

Heer wrote:Actually it might just be possible that the gun could have been twisted like that because of extreme heat, like if it was next to a lot of burning vehicles or gasoline.

I should think enough heat to warp the barrel would have burnt off all the paint as well as burn away the wooden handles of the tools on the upper hull.

Plus, gravity being what it is and all that, wouldn't the bend be downwards?

It actually is bent downwards. But yeah, if there was enough heat to bend the barrel of the tank then there would not have been track links or zimmeret still present. They would have burned off long before.

.......... goes to show that some people will try & sell anything on eBaY just to make a few bucks just waiting for the right sucker to come along. - NO RETURNS - I'd bet the seller is older'n me . lol



- MG

I got another email from the seller:

Dear brekinapez,

Greetings,

I wanted to thank you for your constructive opinion. I spoke with a very brilliant friend of mine and he convinced me due to technical manufacturing details of the alloys this kind of damage is not possible back then. But it was my first one I did so what the heck,...it was a blast creating? Seriously, I have another tiger w/porsche turrent done I will post thats damaged more to your expectations and I have an elephant and a D day tiger I plan to do so please stay tuned. Again I appreciate your honesty and I took it as a constructive challenge.

kindly,
Lucci

- ww2fanlucci

Maybe this will cause him to rise to the challenge and his next offerings will be more accurate and one of us might be moved to buy one.

.......... but not for the kind of $$ he's asking. ... I'd much rather do one myself Thank You .



- MG

I think that barrel would break(fracture)before bending like that,also from the size of the hole in the turret that tank would be on its side just from force of impact .

The damage was caused by a Pershing armed with a 105mm?

Mad Sam wrote:The damage was caused by a Pershing armed with a 105mm?

You probably hadn't heard of it because it was a one-off variant that was rejected because it could only bend barrels.

Ha - That'd be it then. The one and only SUPER SUPER Pershing...

The T26E2 variant of the Pershing was armed with a 105mm howitzer. 185 were produced from July 1945.

Ah that would do it then. July 1945,.

Mad Sam wrote:Ah that would do it then. July 1945,.

But didn't the war in Europe end in May?

But then there's always the 'but it's a war prize being used as a range target' scenario

However, Here's the thread in summary:

It's a piece of cr*p from a bad QC batch built by a five year old which depicts a tank stepped on by Godzilla then hit by a 5" naval gun exploding with so much force that parts were twisted by extreme heat, possibly also as a result of an attack by a parachuting blow-torch armed commando, and if that wasn't enough it was also shot by a time travelling 105mm howitzer armed Pershing.


And for those reasons,
I'm out.