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Revell German Aircraft Carrier Graf Zeppelin

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:34 am
by panzertruppen
I recently got this model kit to make over Christmas. Anyone else have it and has any opinions on it? Just wondering

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:21 pm
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
I did it a couple years ago from another company. its a nice historical piece. but it was never even close to finished. She basocally was tugged around from port to port. eventually being striped for usable parts. I have a prtty interesting book on it.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:56 pm
by ltcbj
What scale?

Does it come with aircraft?

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:00 pm
by panzertruppen
It's 1:720 scale and does come with aircraft.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:15 pm
by ltcbj
Cool.

What a/c are they?

And how many?

Thank you

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:30 pm
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
the one i built had stuka's and what looked like bf-109's

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:33 pm
by panzertruppen
AMERICAN_GRENADIER wrote:the one i built had stuka's and what looked like bf-109's
I think they are the planes (I've just put the kit away till Christmas).

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:38 pm
by ltcbj
I wonder if the planes are available as a 'stand alone' item?

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:34 pm
by Panzer_M
Ju87C and Bf109Ts(both aircraft actually saw combat)

The Arado Biplane Torp bomber I don't know if it went into production of the top of my head...I'd have to look that one up/

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:02 am
by Fox Tare-28
Panzer_M wrote:Ju87C and Bf109Ts(both aircraft actually saw combat)

The Arado Biplane Torp bomber I don't know if it went into production of the top of my head...I'd have to look that one up/
Fieseler Fi 167.
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/fi167.html

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:34 pm
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
Arado AR 1995 V3 and AR 197 V3 were to be a torpedo planes but performance was poor and it was abandoned.
the Arado AR 198 was going to be a ship board fighter but was also scrapped.Arado had no operational torpedo aircraft during the war. They did have some float planes AR 196A-3 that were used for reconnaisance.

Fieseler actually made better progress with the FI 167 2 seat torpedo bomber. 12 wer built FI 167A-0 and accepted by the Luftwaffe for testing. the program was cancelled when the decision was made to use the JU87D
re designated the JU 87E torpedo bomber. By then the grf Zepplin was cancelled.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:50 pm
by vmf214
Pretty nice kit, I have the Revell one as well.

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:28 am
by ltcbj
How much in resources and energy was devoted to the Graf Zeppelin and how might it have helped the war effort if it had gone to other arms?

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:57 pm
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
to much! not only did they waste time with the Graf Zeppelin but they also began to convert 2 passenger ships the Europa & Potsdam. Im not done yet they also had planes for the de Grasse a French heavy cruiser even began to convert these but found it way to expensive. all were halted in 1943.
Then all the time spent developing planes and anti aircraft guns? I dont think its ever really been studied but i assume it cost them far to many resources and money.

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:14 pm
by ltcbj
I didn't know about the other conversions. Really a major case of overreaching.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:31 am
by panzertruppen
I've just completed the kit but still need to paint it.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:51 am
by ltcbj
pix??

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:49 am
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
panzertruppen wrote:I've just completed the kit but still need to paint it.
please post some pics. i just ordered another one since the one i had is in bad shape. doing the research has re sparked my interest!

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:15 pm
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
found this! this is the book i have great book!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0277174356