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5 good reasons why we should get a mig 21

Post by VMF115 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:00 am

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Post by der Vogelfänger » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:54 am

Wow, what a compelling list of accomplishments:

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...count me in, too. Nice research and post!

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Post by CW4USARMY » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:08 am

A Mig-21 would be great. As an Air Defense soldier in my early days, that had to study and memorize enemy aircraft shapes and fin flashes, the fishbed was always one of my favorites. Sign me up for a couple!

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Post by Moth » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:21 am

Im in for any Mig!

Amazing that it has been in so many wars, and China is still building them!
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Post by Rowsdower » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:30 pm

So, basically the Mig-21 is the Honda Civic of the fighter world.

It's a great warplane to be sure, but I'd rather have an F-105! :P
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No there is 6 reasons

Post by longrifle » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:25 pm

I need several to go with my fleet of Mig-15's :-)
They have just got to come out with a Mig-21,in fac I thought I would see it before I did the Mig-15, but now that the Mig-15 is out and I bought one I was so impressed with it I went back and have bought several now, many just for customizing.
I hope if they do the Mig-21, please DO NOT make the fuselage in 2 halves, like in the 1/32 model kits. Also make it tough and detailed
This aircraft can really be done right, so please DO IT RIGHT 21st!!!!! There is SOOOOOOOO MUCH potental here with this aircraft. Aside from the aircraft itself, think of the array of munitions and ordinance that aircraft could carry,AA missiles, bombs,AGMissile, rocket pods,cannon pods,etc.etc.......
By the way, anyone know whicht variant was most produced??? I know there are several. I remember reading that the first variants the Soviets made didnt have cannons at all, they totally relied on missiles.

A Mig-17 would also be a very nice addition too,lots of potential there as well.
Well now I am really hoping for a Mig-21, lets all cross our fingers......

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Re: No there is 6 reasons

Post by Morian Miner » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:57 pm

longrifle wrote:I need several to go with my fleet of Mig-15's :-)
They have just got to come out with a Mig-21,in fac I thought I would see it before I did the Mig-15,
Actually, I will be very surprised if we ever see a MiG-21 in 1/18. The MiG-15 is well know just because of air combat in Korea with the Sabres. Other than that, aside from the trainers, it was quicky superceeded by the MiG-17, which had a much longer service life. Maybe you'd see a MiG-21 if we ever see a F-4 because of the tie-in potential, but that's it. I'd rather get a MiG-17 first because pilots in both Vietnam and Africa preferred the -17s over the -21s.
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Post by tmanthegreat » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:11 pm

I'd get a Mig-21 if one came out. It is a neat looking plane! However, I partly agree with the logic as to why we might not see one. I think it was a miracle that we even got the Mig-15, though, if 21c was going to make an F-86, they had to make the Mig as well. That said, what about a Mig-19? That's practically even more obscure than either the Mig-17 or the Mig-21 (and Galoob, of all companies, even made 1:64 scale version of one!)
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Post by jeffrowse » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:58 am

Not sure about the fifth point there - the F4 Phantom was flying before the MiG21 wasn't it? There are still a few nations flying the F4 (and I believe Turkey is planning on flying them 'til sometime around 2012-2015 :shock: )

From a model manufacturer's point of view, the biggest advantage to WarPac kit - of flying or non-flying varieties - is that all the WarPac nations used the same kit whereas the "free world" nations were able to go their own sweet ways and produce totally different hardware to do exactly the same job... so there's a vast number of different nationalities available for any given airframe, AFV or whatever.
It is also partly why there are still so many old Russian designs flying compared to other stuff - if you can't get the spares, you can't fix the problems; with so many aircraft built, there's lots of spares! Also, they built their kit for heavy-handed, 'frontier' type ops whereas the West was too busy sticking to all those smooth-but-vulnerable airfields - which also meant longer lifespans for the equipment...

But I still don't believe the '21 is the longest-serving fighter in history!

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Post by VMF115 » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:41 am

jeffrowse wrote:Not sure about the fifth point there - the F4 Phantom was flying before the MiG21 wasn't it? There are still a few nations flying the F4 (and I believe Turkey is planning on flying them 'til sometime around 2012-2015 :shock: )

From a model manufacturer's point of view, the biggest advantage to WarPac kit - of flying or non-flying varieties - is that all the WarPac nations used the same kit whereas the "free world" nations were able to go their own sweet ways and produce totally different hardware to do exactly the same job... so there's a vast number of different nationalities available for any given airframe, AFV or whatever.
It is also partly why there are still so many old Russian designs flying compared to other stuff - if you can't get the spares, you can't fix the problems; with so many aircraft built, there's lots of spares! Also, they built their kit for heavy-handed, 'frontier' type ops whereas the West was too busy sticking to all those smooth-but-vulnerable airfields - which also meant longer lifespans for the equipment...

But I still don't believe the '21 is the longest-serving fighter in history!
The Phantom flew in U.S. service from 1960 while the MiG-21 entered service in early 1959.
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Post by aae83 » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:14 pm

The B-52 was introduced prior to the MiG-21 and is still active, I think.

A MiG-21 in 1/18th would be cool: many opportunities for repaints.

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Post by FieroDude » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:28 pm

Yes, the B-52 entered service in 1955, and is planned to remain in service until 2040 (I have also heard as long as 2045, but I am going by what is on the FAS website).
Here is a pretty thorough rundown on the B-52H:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b-52.htm
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Post by tko211 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:32 pm

I love the comparrison of the Mig-21 to a Honda Civic! :lol:

I have THE BEST reason to build it in 1:18 scale...

IF they build a Mig-21 they would then HAVE to build the F-4 Phantom to kick its butt! And I would love to see a Phantom!!!!!!

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Post by longrifle » Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:10 pm

Yes, we absolutly need a Mig-21 without a doubt, I am really hoping for this release. Im still applauding the Mig-15 and the Sabre......Just cant help myself.
And yes, if we get a Mig-21 we for sure need a Phantom. Accorsing to what I have heard though the Phantom gets alot of the glory yet the 105's were the workhorses. Its kinda like the Spitfire and Hurricane of the BOB.
There were more Hurricanes made, and they shot down more german aircraft during the battlem but the Spitfire gets all the glory.

Now from other sources I have read and heard, if you take away the Mig-17 and Mig-19 kills and isolate the Mig-21 and F-4 its actually 2-1 in favor of the Mig.............Some food for thought.......I could be wrong though..
Not to pick sides here, I think the Phantom was a superior aircraft and for sure had better drivers....

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Post by Rowsdower » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:03 pm

tko211 wrote:I love the comparrison of the Mig-21 to a Honda Civic! :lol:
:lol: Seemed about right. :P
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Post by VMF115 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:12 pm

Rowsdower wrote:So, basically the Mig-21 is the Honda Civic of the fighter world.

It's a great warplane to be sure, but I'd rather have an F-105! :P
Every time I see or think of a Honda civic I think of Sir Mix A Lot’s baby got back

"So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda"


I would say the Mig 21 is more like a GM Firebird, they made tons of those car,
Now what kind of car would see up on blocks in a trailer park and now what kind of aircraft would you see sitting on third world runway failing apart due to poor or no maintenance at all,

The Mig 21 that are flying have been taken care of, and the same cane be said of the Firebird’s many of the classic one that are still driven are in some what good shape.

So the Mig 21 "has back" and is also a red neck version of the Pontiac classic 1960’s firebird :lol: :lol:
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Post by Moth » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:16 pm

Rowsdower wrote:
tko211 wrote:I love the comparrison of the Mig-21 to a Honda Civic! :lol:
:lol: Seemed about right. :P
Ive never seen a "Riced" Mig before...

It needs a huge spolier, (set backwards of course) chrome taillights, a body kit with some splashes of paint, and chrome wheels! Dont forget to lower it and add a huge loud muffler!
Leaving the engine standard is a nesscesity. :lol:

Sorry, I like to make fun of cars that add everything to the outside to make it look like a performance car(Which never happens anyway) but leave the engine stock except for a huge muffler. :lol:
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Post by VMF115 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:20 pm

Moth wrote:
Rowsdower wrote::lol: Seemed about right. :P
Ive never seen a "Riced" Mig before...

It needs a huge spolier, (set backwards of course) chrome taillights, a body kit with some splashes of paint, and chrome wheels! Dont forget to lower it and add a huge loud muffler!
Leaving the engine standard is a nesscesity. :lol:

Sorry, I like to make fun of cars that add everything to the outside to make it look like a performance car(Which never happens anyway) but leave the engine stock except for a huge muffler. :lol:
LOL

I guess the J-7 Jianjiji-7 could be considered a Rice jet LOL

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Post by VMF115 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:21 pm

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Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Let me hear your guns!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Your guns! Ack, ack, ack, ack, ack!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: [fires his airplane's guns] AHHHH!

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Post by Moth » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:27 pm

Not really, the missles and bombs are usefull, so it isnt "rice"
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Post by MightyMustang » Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:33 pm

Great reasons for a Mig 21 BUT I know alot of good reasons why the A-10 guys should get an A-10 first and theres too many to talk about.


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Post by VMF115 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:41 pm

I just hope 21st builds this bird along with the f-4 also, when it does get built I know 21st will not let us down. 8)
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Post by Tinman » Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:52 pm

Yes, both are must-haves as far as I'm concerned!

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Post by KAMIKAZE » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:12 pm

Put me down for a couple.

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