new 1:18 figures from 21st

steelbonnet · Post by **steelbonnet** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:09 am

No Probs mate

As for your Ruskie NO hardware comment,Wrong there mate. Technically EVERYTHING released by XD for the WWII period WAS used by the Russians during WWII. Allied being part of the Lend Lease programme set up by the Allies (still wierd to see Sov`s using Universal Carriers,never mind the Sherman & Wearing US Tanker helmets too).
The German stuff of course captured.
So it IS feasible to have Soviet troops with Plenty of hardware.

Though those wanting Sov figures would like to see at least the T-34 tank too.....LOL

ja
Steel Bonnet

Post by **aferguson** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:43 am

i dont agree that Russian figures would be peg warmers. Besides, they don't need to make a whole series of 6, like they usually do...they need to make 2.

One standard Russian soldier with PPSH and sniper rifle and one cold weather Russian soldier with PPSH and DP machine gun.

From those two figures you could build an army. And then we'd be more likely to see some Russian armour (eg T-34) to compliment.

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:34 am

Right on Aferg.. Those two combo's and lots of headswaps would pretty much kit out a small Russian platoon pretty quick.

As for the Japanese being pegwarmers, maybe you weren't around when wave 1 came out? It was like trying to pan for gold in Brooklyn! There were rumours, and the occasional sighting, but the well was pretty darn dry until S2 and S3 showed up.

All I say is get them while they last because after Eastwoods two new movies come out and even the new Band of Brothers - Pacific, they might end up being the today's fallschirmjagers or vietnam figures a year or two from now. $10-15 a pop, only on ebay.

digger · Post by **digger** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:50 am

I agree Russians would sell - just like the Japanese did as Grunt1 said. There must be a reason they ran off S2 & S3...eventually most things start to warm the shelves...even the original 21C figs eventually went on sale.

My favorite wave of 18 figures would be 9 americans and 9 germans.

I think this is most likely. Again, I'm with SB & everyone else hoping for Brits and Ruskies, but I wasn't just talking about TKO's latest comment but all his comments on these figures over the last 2 months (Yes, I've been paying close attention). Besides, he said he has pics of 4, not that he only knows of 4.

macvsog · Post by **macvsog** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:16 am

So, the standard hands are not molded in a firing position, rather a "mitten" type of hand. However the solid molded arms to have a firing position hand.

I assume of course these are interchangable?

I hope that the solid arms are not solid through the hand as well, b/c if it is and with 21st record of drastically different sized sculpt connections, they have just given us a wave of entirely useless figures (like BOB in my opinion).

I hate it when a figure can't hold their weapon corrently, which is why I hate BOB and semi-hate the Marines.

I hope that the firing position hand can easily be attached to the good arms and looks good. I get the feeling that is going to be a big, no.

Sorry to gripe,

mike

macvsog · Post by **macvsog** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:20 am

Wait!

I just noticed something strange:

The first figure is what I was talking about, standard moving arms with mitten hands and solid arms with firing hards, but the other figure has that same ocnfiguration plus a seperate firing hand!

What is the deal with that? I assume this means the hands on the solid arms don't move and can't be swapped? So why give an extra good hand to one figure, but not all? At least it gives some hope of, in the very least, using that one good extra hand on all needed mods.

Oh well, that's better than nothing for sure.

Oh, and thanks again TKO, they do look great. Amazing in fact.

mike

digger · Post by **digger** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:49 am

I think the Ranger has the extra firing hand for the articulated arm so he can fire his pistol

I also doubt the static arm is solid through the hand - swivel wrist is key and it seems to be there.

7thva_hunter · Post by **7thva_hunter** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:57 am

The thing is with DAK is I cant use them in my battle seens.

newwavepop · Post by **newwavepop** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:06 am

i have been waiting along time for some new figs.

there was a series 3 japanese?
what were they?

digger · Post by **digger** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:31 am

Funny you ask because I would swear that "S2" and "S3" are basically the same thing but some people had said the colors were distinctly different. I'd love to see a side by side photo of the actual figures people believe to be S2 & S3...I think any difference can likely be contributed to a later run have a slightly different shade. Maybe not but I'm still not sold on S3 Japanese...

Morian Miner · Post by **Morian Miner** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:58 am

Several times people have asked for side-by-sides, and none have shown up. Still think there are only two Japanese series.

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:35 am

The Imperial army has three series. 1 tan color, 1 yellowish color that is not tan, and 1 light green color. In some Wal-Marts down here in the south, we still have all three series on the same shelf.

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:32 pm

Here ya go:

Series 1

Series 2

Series 3 (note missing Rising Sun on headband and cardboard backing)

These are all from the SSHQ database.
http://www.sshqdb.com

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:40 pm

Oh and I just checked my own S2 Kudo, he also appears to have been censored (no Rising Sun bandana) which conflicts with the picture. Anyone have a legit (no headswapping now) S2 Kudo with the flag headband?

kevrut · Post by **kevrut** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:45 pm

Does the release of a different package mean they're a 3rd release? S1 and S2 look the same to me. (From the pics you posted.) The headband is a different color. Are the uniforms a different color?

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:00 pm

The S1 and S3 look to have the same color of uniform and same accessories, differing only in that the headband is unpainted on the S3 version and the card backing is different from that of the S1 figure.

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:41 pm

Series 1:
Name 1 (Japanese Imperial Army)
Color 1 (Green)
Headband 1 (Rising Sun)
Card Backing 1 (Rising Sun)

Series 2:
Name 2 (Imperial Marines)
Color 2 (Tan)
Headband 2 (White)
Card Backing 2 (Anchor)

Series 3:
Name 2 (Imperial Marines)
Color 1 (Green)
Headband 2 (White)
Card Backing 2 (Anchor)

And the mystery series (might have existed only in prototype):
Name 1 (Japanese Imperial Army)
Color 2 (Tan)
Headband 1 (Rising Sun)
Card Backing 1 (Rising Sun)

The mystery series should have been series 2, but the headbands and card backings were censored/removed (along with the Rising Sun flag the US marine was holding) apparently due to controversy.

The Chinese (where these are manufactured afik) are still understandably a bit upset over WWII.

kevrut · Post by **kevrut** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:48 pm

Thanks.

macvsog · Post by **macvsog** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:30 pm

Way to put your money where your mouth is!

I actually find those pictures really useful.

Thanks,

digger · Post by **digger** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:19 pm

EDIT - I think I solved the mystery and have found three guys in my collection of different colors. Perhaps different enough to equal 3 series.

newwavepop · Post by **newwavepop** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:47 am

well i guess there is a series 3 as they released more and some things were differnt.
but to me they arent different so i personally dont care.

7thva_hunter · Post by **7thva_hunter** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:02 pm

I hope one is a FJ.But for now D-Day men is cool for now.

Morian Miner · Post by **Morian Miner** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:19 pm

Good to see what the S3 Japanese were. Although I don't think the uniform colors are that different, there is enough detail/packaging difference to refer to them that way.

Back to the new stuff - hey tko, we need another fix! I tell you what would be awesome - a/c ground crew like was shown with the Legends P51 or some soldiers with t-shirts.

ARMY GROUP 1 · Post by **ARMY GROUP 1** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:37 am

MORE GERMANS, EXCELLENT, & EXTRA HELMUTS TO SHARE AROUND. GOOD FOR ME BEING AN ARMY BUILDER...BRING THEM ON.

steelbonnet · Post by **steelbonnet** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:46 am

TKO,

Thank`s very much for the photos of the 2 New German`s & truely looking forward to seeing WHAT camo is Actually going to be used on the camo version.

Great to see they too have the new shoulder articulation & also 2 choices of headwear & one being the M43 cap

Here`s to getting these & the 2 US one`s seen already & also Looking forward to seeing the next 14 figures (sorry but any idea when you may have photos???).

Ja
Steel Bonnet

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