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But that's what you said in February of 2004!

Just kidding, I'm choosing to remain optimistic at this point....

True it has been a while. I know that the recent news looks bad and everyone has a right to worry. But really, I wouldn't be too suprised to see them in just a few weeks leave it to 21st to still pull off some miracles.

My reserved spots in my collection are remaining open and dusted off!

tko

do you know some thing we don't


come on spill the beans

I can't imagine the problem isn't solvable but like any manufacturing process, there can be pitfalls even experienced product designers and engineers can't forsee in pre-production.

What many people don't realize is that quality control usually has the last say in these kinds of assembly-line product issues. Lots of finger-pointing can go on before a team of people finally comes up with the real solution, but putting the right people to work on it usually produces the desired result.

I only hope it doesn't discourage them from stretching the product line into larger airplanes.

Thats all well and good, But this isn't the first 1/18 plane they have produced. All the planes produced to this point have to had problems that were resolved and those lessons should be applied before any new production is started.

Assuming the design and production team are the same group from S1 Me 109 days.

It would be stupid to hire new design teams for each new plane planned.

I see online retailers are already issuing statements to refund pre-orders.

I believe businesses have to deliver a product by 60 days if they have charged your card. A lot of money being returned...

DH

Anyone want to bet on a time frame for when they are on the boat heading East? I am going to say Sept. earliest. Any takers for over or under?

If it's sooner, will you buy me one? If it's september, I'll buy you one. Deal?

Hey Digger, I'll make a deal with you! If it's sooner, you
can buy me one and if it's September, you can buy me one. Deal?

I'll take it!

WOW ten pages long and yet STILL no avenger!

MAYBE
the 21st Avengers are lost with flight 19?
never to be seen again

I think the Avengers are ghostly planes - forever in flight but never to be seen.

For Warhawker:

I would like to place a bet for under!

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For TKO211,
Ok, I will give you under until August 31st, 2006, 11:59:59 PM but not a second more! How does that sound?
If you like we can sweeten this bet?

Sorry Digger for not replying, you want part of this action?

I'd almost be willing to bet there are a few dozen cases of them in the pipeline. They may be sitting in a container on a ship or maybe even on the dock or still in customs - but they probably all have whatever the fatal flaw is so they'd need to be retrofitted with the new parts and I'll also bet that's done stateside rather than face the time and expense of shipping them back.

Personally, the idea of having to take them out of the packaging, fix them and put them back in would be a recurring nightmare after about the tenth one.

Then again, I'd probably be willing to take a couple of days and crank a few out (carefully, of course), if that meant I got one at a, well, you know, discount!

Well the fatal flaw has to be the wing folding mechanism. I don't suppose the license included the reproduction of the real hinge in miniature.

Everything else should be a standard production procedure.

I just had a braim storm, the hold up is the little alien figures! The US goverment is waiting for the model release paperwork from the embassy on Zeta Retuli.

DH

LOL!

BadCat changed their title photo from the Avenger being mauled by Zeros, to a BBI Corsair being mauled by Zeros!

Are they that sure the Avenger is lost for ever?... I hope it isnt

We need to do something like the old sailors and pirates did - something like a gold coin for the first to spot these.

I've been hiting every walmart in town just to see if the vehicles mentioned in another topic were showing up. I have 4 on preorder, I don't know what I would do if I walked in a saw one.

DH

Ok lets not all lose our minds over this Avenger setback. It will come sooner or later. And when it does? Lord only knows.

Just a real bad and paranoic thought. Could BadCat have decided that they aren't charging enough? I.E. find a reason to cancel the preorders and then start them again at a highter price.

I hope I'm just wrong, I've had pleasent experiences with them, but this just feels wrong.

Delayed again...


It'll get here eventually

JimBob

Jim Bob

I don't post that often but your pictorial quip had me laughing out loud in the office! So this is the Avenger production line at 21st? The guys on the left look mighty annoyed that all their tampo printing work was for nothing!

Seriously I don't mind waiting, it will come and the price point will be honored I'm sure of that.

Regards

JoeS

I guess the only source of information about the Avenger delay will have to come from BCA's website. RKO, why won't 21C talk to us? Are we not the ultimate customers?