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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by c119box » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:18 am

If someone is refurbishing the 21C molds, I'm encouraged. Even though the P-51 is an old favorite of many, It is the one I'd pick if wanting to meet the interests of the masses.
Maybe they have other molds tucked away. I'll watch this with great interest.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by c119box » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:17 am

I got thinking! It was stated in a post these are older molds. Do they have retractable gear? With or without pilot? Why don't these on line sellers give us details? If they want orders, tell us what we are getting. Frustrating!

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by C00per » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:10 am

Ok, here we go:

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by tmanthegreat » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:45 pm

Awesome pics, COOper and thanks for posting :D

Yep, basically the old retooled 21c P-51D repainted. Even the figure is the same. Funny, but the box more closely resembles that used for the BBI P-51s. I think "The Hun Hunter from Texas" is my favorite of the bunch.

I don't see a lot of obvious paint flaws, though it seems like the OD paint across the nose on all the planes doesn't align with that around the base of the windscreen - that isn't all that accurate. Also, the instrument hood on several of the planes should be black, not silver, to reduce sun glare and all. At least all the props are straight and not bent! Still can't make up my mind about these. I've got 3 21c P-51s, which look just as good as these for the most part, a couple BBI P-51s, and of course the S1 21c P-51 that was my original XD purchase, so I just can't commit and say yeah, I want to spend $129 on something I once bought at Wal Mart for $40...
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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by normandy » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:06 am

Congratulations Cooper, you got all four. 8)
These P-51's look great and its a good opportunity for new collectors to get into 1:18.
I wonder who this company is and how they came into ownership of these molds? Oh well.....
....its good to see something in 1:18.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by pickelhaube » Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:58 am

tmanthegreat wrote:Awesome pics, COOper and thanks for posting :D

Yep, basically the old retooled 21c P-51D repainted. Even the figure is the same. Funny, but the box more closely resembles that used for the BBI P-51s. I think "The Hun Hunter from Texas" is my favorite of the bunch.

I don't see a lot of obvious paint flaws, though it seems like the OD paint across the nose on all the planes doesn't align with that around the base of the windscreen - that isn't all that accurate. Also, the instrument hood on several of the planes should be black, not silver, to reduce sun glare and all. At least all the props are straight and not bent! Still can't make up my mind about these. I've got 3 21c P-51s, which look just as good as these for the most part, a couple BBI P-51s, and of course the S1 21c P-51 that was my original XD purchase, so I just can't commit and say yeah, I want to spend $129 on something I once bought at Wal Mart for $40...

Your right they do looked like boxed BBI's.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Snake Man » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:28 am

Hmmmm..... Should not the "Red Tail" pilot be a Black guy ?

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by normandy » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:50 am

Snake Man wrote:Hmmmm..... Should not the "Red Tail" pilot be a Black guy ?

Sure looks like a Tuskegee Red Tail..........

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Dauntless » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:56 pm

Thanks for the pics COOper. 8)

Looks like Hun Hunter has a black dash at least.

So if I bought one that'd be the one I'd get. Too bad American Beauty is not quite right in that respect. :?
Lots of kill markings on both.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by snake » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:59 pm

Thanks for the pics COOper.

All in all, they look not bad, but the silver dash on 3 out of 4 really stands out, and not in a good way.

Decent repaints, but priced at $130. Going to be a bit of a hard sell for those of us who have examples of the 21 C and BBI versions, unless there is a scheme that you must have.

Not complaining about the $130 price tag, as think that these days, that is a fair price. All models these days have gone up in price, and not just the ones you could get at Walmart. :wink: Just the way it is.

I know I have enough 1/18 Mustangs, but wish Flight Wing success with these.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by plasticboy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:13 am

These P-51 looks great! But I have enough P-51, if the price is $130 that really freaking me out. The good old day is gone, so sad!!
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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Coreyeagle48 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:29 pm

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I am with the consensus....these look okay. The silver dash really is not correct at all (I have never seen ANY P-51 with the silver dash) and the black pilot figure missing from the Tuskegee plane is a pretty big error as well. As far as the planes go "The Hun Hunter-Texas" looks to be the best of the bunch.

Curious about the boxes as well.

Seems like maybe 2-3 companies bought the old 21c molds as we've seen a few of the planes offered by different companies now. But this is the first plane we've seen to have the figures included.

I had heard some of the molds were destroyed so I doubt we will see all the planes offered again.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by mountian-man » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:04 pm

I like the weathering around the exhaust stacks, the boxes look sharp; appropriately labeled 'United States Army Airforces'!

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I don't think 'The Hun Hunter from Texas' had a tail fillet.

$130 seems about $30 too much, considering BBi's 109 is still retailing $89.99 and is frankly a more detailed product.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Snake Man » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:18 am

I thought the exhaust staining was quite heavy-handed. I never saw that much blackening around P-51 exhausts. Take a look at the actual aircraft picture included in the photo set. I would rather not have any attempt at weathering at all than to have it poorly done. I would rather do my own weathering. Easier to do my own than to have to paint over an over done attempt.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by tko211 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:21 pm

The Hun Hunter is tempting me the most. American Beauty a close second. That silver dash does blow... Oh well maybe I can fix it easily?

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by NWarty » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:18 am

Wow...for the price point, that's a pretty big paint mistake. Not JSI-Spotcat levels of crapness, but a big boo boo nonetheless.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by normandy » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:29 pm

I'm not trying to be picky but the C on the tail of The Hun Hunter is backwards. :?

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.....for the price they're charging, quality control should have caught some of these mistakes.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by snake » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:23 pm

Good to see you posting again, Zach. :D

And the backwards C, means every one of them has a qc issue. Simple mistakes like this drive collectors crazy, especially with the new price tag.

Not a rivet counter, but these are pretty glaring mistakes. You would have hoped that these would have been spotted before going into production.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Coreyeagle48 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:44 pm

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You have to wonder about these why in the world they would paint the dash black in one of the planes but not all of them. That is kind of a strange situation.

The backward C is a very glaring error.

I am not overly impressed by these. I hope it brings new collectors into 1/18 but honestly there are a surplus of old Mustangs out there and the ones already offered are superior to these. I think these will be a tough sell.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Waltz41 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:24 am

As noted, these definitley have their paint issues. American Beauty should have two different names one on each side, and also on the gear door I think it had a squadron or group insignia. Hunter indeed should not have the fin fillet and has the C issue. The other two look ok except for the silver dash. At least that will be an easy fix, just get a $1.50 bottle of testors flat black at AC Moore. But when you pay $130 for a model pre painted and you have to fix it, that's something that just doesnt sit right w me.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Mad Sam » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:31 am

Hello Gents
I have a question for anybody who has purchased the 'Man O War' P51...
The one I got has two tail wings with identical paint jobs, which means the green stripes are correct on the starboard side, but end up underneath on the port.
Is this just on my example, or are they all like this? I'd like to find out before taking it up with the retailer.
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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by normandy » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:03 am

I don't have one but it sounds like you have two starboard side pieces. But then you'd know right a way by the fit.
If each of the horizontal stabilizers fit correctly than they painted the wrong side of the port stabilizer. :?

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Mad Sam » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:32 am

So this one must be painted on the wrong side, because it fits in place fine.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Axis Nightmare » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:15 pm

Snake Man wrote:I thought the exhaust staining was quite heavy-handed. I never saw that much blackening around P-51 exhausts. Take a look at the actual aircraft picture included in the photo set. I would rather not have any attempt at weathering at all than to have it poorly done. I would rather do my own weathering. Easier to do my own than to have to paint over an over done attempt.
As someone who is blessed with being around a Mustang a lot, including pulling it out and towing it in as well as post flight clean-up, I can tell you there is no staining around the stacks. There is faint discoloring, kind of a dirty irridescent well to the rear of the stacks where the hot exhaust blows back. Black soot would probably only occur from a lousy engine running lousy fuel on full rich mixture. Even then it would be blown back and very faint. you're more likely to see exhaust blow-back against darker O.D. paint and even then it is more a khaki stain. Don't know what it was about Desert Hurricanes (and to a lesser extent Spitfires) but they are the exception as seen in this photo.

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Re: New 1:18 Mustangs

Post by Coreyeagle48 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:15 am

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It is sad these planes are such a mess. The silver panel, the backwards C, bad weathering and now someone got one with two of the same stabilizer. It is really a shame because given the nice boxes and presentation, I think a lot more was expected of this new offering. Seems like more of the same 21c gremlins showing up

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