No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly. Time for Mk2

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No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly. Time for Mk2

Post by Jay » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:19 pm

Hey fellas.
Next release from my Shapeways store will be a Bomb Dolly for use with the 1/18th Stuka's, 190's and 109's.

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Need some feedback on a few things.
Do you want the wheels to rotate?
I'm probably going to make the arm jack fixed. Is this a big deal?
The handle at the front end will probably be hinged, so you can set a figure at different angles.
It will probably also be in some sort of kit form. Is this a big deal?
I could assemble and paint them for people, but the shipping costs would suck.
I have no idea of a price point so far. Whats a fair price?

Any ideas, or critisism welcome.
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jnewboy » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:57 pm

8) 8)

Never knew you had a store on there! post a link!

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by pickelhaube » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:04 pm

I like it !!

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by normandy » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:05 pm

That looks cool.

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by rudedog » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:23 pm

jay ever think of building any of the bomb carts for the spot cat or the black knight they would go good with the md 3 tractor pizza guy has out .

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jay » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:36 pm

If there is some demand for the modern USAF Bomb carts, I could make that the next release......
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by rudedog » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:58 am

modern navy versions and im in

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by rudedog » Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:02 am

jay sir will the dolly come with the bomb in the picture? thx rudedog

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jay » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:18 pm

Yes. Even though my first Sprue layout didn't include the SC250 Bomb (as shown in the link) http://www.shapeways.com/model/984389/b ... Box-search , the final version will include it. Just have to add a few more details.
Would be easy enough to even have two versions for those that want it with, or without.
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by aae83 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:53 am

Jay wrote:Hey fellas.
Next release from my Shapeways store will be a Bomb Dolly for use with the 1/18th Stuka's, 190's and 109's.

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Need some feedback on a few things.
Do you want the wheels to rotate?
I'm probably going to make the arm jack fixed. Is this a big deal?
The handle at the front end will probably be hinged, so you can set a figure at different angles.
It will probably also be in some sort of kit form. Is this a big deal?
I could assemble and paint them for people, but the shipping costs would suck.
I have no idea of a price point so far. Whats a fair price?

Any ideas, or critisism welcome.
Jay, this model is awesome!

o Rotating wheels would be nice, but not the end if they don't.
o When you say the arm jack would be fixed, you mean a single position for the bomb? If so, that's not a huge deal, but it would be nice if it could be positioned in lowered or raised position, like a pivot and pin kind of deal. It doesn't need to function like a real jack.
o Kit is not a problem.
o Whatever price you choose is fair: this is your intellectual property and you determine its value to you. Whether people buy it or not depends on its value to them. That's my two cents, but I just finished reading Atlas Shrugged (again).

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jay » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:36 pm

o Rotating wheels would be nice, but not the end if they don't.
Yes, the wheels will be free to rotate.
o When you say the arm jack would be fixed, you mean a single position for the bomb? If so, that's not a huge deal, but it would be nice if it could be positioned in lowered or raised position, like a pivot and pin kind of deal. It doesn't need to function like a real jack.
At this stage I'm going to leave it as is, just to simplify the design.
o Kit is not a problem.
Cool. It's pretty straight forward to put together. The only things to glue would be one join along the body of the main frame, wheels halves and the pins which hold the wheels in place. I can also do instructions if need be.
Again. I've gone with the kit form, to make painting and detailing more easier.
o Whatever price you choose is fair: this is your intellectual property and you determine its value to you. Whether people buy it or not depends on its value to them. That's my two cents, but I just finished reading Atlas Shrugged (again)
Cool. While i won't price gouge I wouldn't mind a few bucks in my pocket.
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jay » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:03 pm

Sorry for the delay fellas. Just ordered the first test piece, with the added SC250 Bomb. Should be here in 3 weeks. The image below is a rendering, using the exact same CAD model that is being used for the test piece.

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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by A-10LOADER » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:47 am

Jay, great job. Having the ability and skill to build models is one thing but, the guys who are able to design stuff like this and make them come to life, that just takes it to a whole new level. I am not a WWII guy but, I can appreciate your talent on this item. Looking forward to seeing other items from you in the future.


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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jay » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:40 pm

Thanks for the kind words Steve, but trust me. The computer is the one doing all the work! I'm just the monkey pushing the buttons :lol: .
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Rylau » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:34 am

Hi Jay; What do you think a dolly for the torpedo on the TBF would cost ??
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jay » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:47 pm

Are they ones like this?

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I haven't been able to find clear scale drawings of them.
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Rylau » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:14 am

Looked on Google and found a picture of a TBF being loaded on the Wasp in WWII.The dolly looks like the one in your picture but only seems to be about 5 or 6 feet long using the sailors as a gauge. There is a wheel on the side the would seem to activate a scissor jack to raise the torpedo up into the plane. Interesting. This would be a realistic way to display the torpedo. Regards...Bob
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Re: No 8 Models: German Bomb Dolly

Post by Jay » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:03 pm

I did a quick google search as well.
I couldn't find any good reference photos. A few large side views but nothing showing the top or under side details.
Found a 1/48 avenger diorama with a trolley, but it was scratch built.
Reference material will be the thing to keep an eye out for from now on.
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Re: No 8 Models: German WGr21 Rocket Launcher

Post by Jay » Sat May 04, 2013 8:28 pm

Ok, so i'm going to follow suit and try and contain all the model releases under this one post.
I will be starting the modern ordnance kits soon, but recently I've been working on some follow ups to the bomb dolly. Included is a WGr21 rocket launcher, some ammo boxes, and various other German bombs. This should also tie in nicely with the upcoming FW190A. At this stage you would have to drill some holes under the wing. I could possibly make a simple template available with the kit, as well as maybe some online measurements to follow.
Let me know what you think.
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Re: No 8 Models: German WGr21 Rocket Launcher

Post by normandy » Sun May 05, 2013 6:15 am

Jay, the WGr 21 would be cool mounted under the wing of the upcoming Merit FW-190.

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Here is a pic of a German bomb dolly in action...

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Re: No 8 Models: German WGr21 Rocket Launcher

Post by norman888 » Mon May 06, 2013 4:22 pm

I'm in for at least 1 set of the wgr21's. Was gonna make these myself.

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Re: No 8 Models: German WGr21 Rocket Launcher

Post by Crazy Kraut » Tue May 07, 2013 8:45 am

I think I really need more as one pair of those rockets :D
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Re: No 8 Models: German WGr21 Rocket Launcher

Post by Jay » Tue May 07, 2013 8:11 pm

About to order the first test prints.
Do you guys think i need to supply a drilling template for the attachment pins?

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Also received a UPS notice saying the Bomb Dolly was on it's way. They had some issue with printing the wheel pins, so they are going to print them separately. Hopefully they won't be to far behind the main kit.
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Re: No 8 Models: German WGr21 Rocket Launcher

Post by pickelhaube » Wed May 08, 2013 4:41 am

I think that it will be a good idea about the mounting pin templates.

The rocket pods look great. :D
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Re: No 8 Models: German WGr21 Rocket Launcher

Post by Crazy Kraut » Wed May 08, 2013 4:58 am

drilling template would help allot for mounting. Looking real good 8)
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