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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:16 am
by pickelhaube
Well I got this book in and it just throws gas on the fire.

According to this book that black on the bottom is red !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the mottle paint is green not gray on top :roll:

The Myra book states time and again that the production pine launch towers were 70 feet tall the new book states 15 meters tall .

That is about 46 inches tall vs about 33 inches tall in 1/18th scale.

I was hoping for some nice line drawings of the Natter like were in the 229 book but was sadly let down. Almost nothing to speak of.

There are better line drawings in the 1/32 scale Natter model instructions.

But they state " no scale ".

So I am going to have to enlarge those drawings to fit the 1/32 scale model then take those enlarged drawings and blow them up to 1/18th scale .

Jeez what a pain for such a supposedly simple project. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:01 am
by normandy
Pickel, I'd check known examples for the specs. Smithsonian has one.....uh, just did some more reading...seems the Smithsonian has the only one (the only original) surviving today. You may have to go with that.

You could check with Crazy Krauts friends and see what measurements they're going with.

http://www.ba349.de/Gallerie-Rumpfwerk.aspx

As far as the paint scheme, like the Horten..... I think we're in the realm of "what if".
I still want one. :D

Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:18 pm
by Crazy Kraut
I would really like to help. I´ll ask the guys and create an email contact.
This must work!!!

Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:42 pm
by Jnewboy
Just upscale it from the 1/32 model or 1/48. I dont think anyone on here will mind a few millimeters of indiscretion one why or the other, just want to see it get made! Dont make it more painful than it needs to be.

Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:54 am
by 1958Zelda
Yes,keep it basic,any reasonable close looking item you produce will be great!

Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:58 am
by Crazy Kraut
Hey Matthew,
if you want I´ll let you know the email-address from this german Natter guy. He told me that you´re welcome to get in contact with him.
regards
Sven

Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:25 am
by pickelhaube
Crazy Kraut wrote:Hey Matthew,
if you want I´ll let you know the email-address from this german Natter guy. He told me that you´re welcome to get in contact with him.
regards
Sven

Sven ,

That would be totally cool of you !!!!!!

Maybe you can also invite him to join the forum :D :D :D

Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:15 pm
by pickelhaube
I played hooky from the Tiger II project and was able to make up the drawings of the Natter in 1/18th scale.
The drawings form the Sky kit were the best that I have seen ,even from the 3 books that I have gotten for the subject.

These drawings are the Sky model's directions . Enlarged to 1/18th scale.

Here you go !!

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The Natter is smaller and shorter than the V-1 but the fusalage is a great deal bigger.
Because of that it looks bigger than I thought it would look.

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:13 pm
by normandy
Very cool Matthew. Looks like this will be another fine 1:18 custom from the Pickelwerks.
Oh and I've got a few 21st Stuka Pilots ready for the Natter. :mrgreen:

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:03 pm
by Jnewboy
Makes me want one even more!

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:36 am
by pickelhaube
Finally got my pics back.

Things may be a little more relevant now.

Hopefully after the HIND winds down ( 2 months ????)

These are the projects that hopefully will come out in 2018 .

P-51 B backdate------------- 75% ready
Natter-------------------------I have prints and model to scale off of
105 Howitzer------------------80% ready
Blackhawk DAP package------50% ready
Huey D stretch-----------------planning stage only
Sdkfz 251 FUNK---------------Top antenna rack done
Sdkfz 223----------------------75% done need to finish MG mount and chair trapeze

Remolds

M-10
Sdkfz 222
Wirblewind

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:52 am
by rschaap
This is exciting news, 2018 looks to be a good one for the hobby.

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:18 am
by normandy
This would be a nice kit Pickel.

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Way to much work in a metal launch tower.

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I think this might be the way to go, the pine launch tower but maybe not to scale (height), 33 inches is a bit tall.

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:24 am
by pickelhaube
The way the aircraft is designed it could just sit on it's tail feathers in the verticle position.

Or I can get a wooden dowel cut to a determind height with the frame work attached like in you pic.

When /if the Natter were to go into production , they were going to place these telephone poles launching towers all through out Germany

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:43 am
by normandy
I found this picture while looking up info on the Natter....

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"Memorial for the Bachem Ba 349 „Natter“ at the Ochsenkopf near Stetten am kalten Markt; Baden-Württemberg, Germany. The stylised Balkenkreuz on the wings is not conform to facts. The site is in a restricted military area."

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:58 am
by normandy
pickelhaube wrote: When /if the Natter were to go into production , they were going to place these telephone poles launching towers all through out Germany


Here are some pictures of the launch pads..

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Deployment launch sites NW for the Bachem Ba 349 „Natter“ at the Hasenholz forest near Kirchheim unter Teck; Baden-Württemberg, Germany. Wikimedia Commons.

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:00 pm
by pvanroy
I'd certainly be in for a Natter! Apart from the metal and wooden 'telephone pole' launch towers, other possible ways of displaying the model would be on its transport cart, or just on a simple wooden support (which is actually visible in the background in one of the photos posted higher). If I remember correctly, there were also plans for a road-mobile launcher, but this wasn't constructed before the end of the war.

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:54 pm
by Jnewboy
Know that I have the natter already expanded in hydrospan. I need to cast it and create the final master mold. I understand that means next to nothing with my track record of late.

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:40 am
by normandy
The more I think about it, the Natter by itself would be fine.
pickelhaube wrote:The way the aircraft is designed it could just sit on it's tail feathers in the verticle position.
Displayed with a launch tower, it would take up way to much 1:18 space....which I'm running out of. :shock:

I wanted to build a 1:18 V-1 launch ramp.....

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....maybe in the living room. :P

Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:31 am
by Crazy Kraut
I´ll definetly in for a Natter-Kit. With or without a launch tower. In height there is enough space in my 1:18 diorama so I´ll prefer it with wooden 'telephone pole' launch tower.