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Who wants a Natter ?

1. Yes Est. Price $100-$175
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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ?

Post by pickelhaube » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:16 am

Well I got this book in and it just throws gas on the fire.

According to this book that black on the bottom is red !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the mottle paint is green not gray on top :roll:

The Myra book states time and again that the production pine launch towers were 70 feet tall the new book states 15 meters tall .

That is about 46 inches tall vs about 33 inches tall in 1/18th scale.

I was hoping for some nice line drawings of the Natter like were in the 229 book but was sadly let down. Almost nothing to speak of.

There are better line drawings in the 1/32 scale Natter model instructions.

But they state " no scale ".

So I am going to have to enlarge those drawings to fit the 1/32 scale model then take those enlarged drawings and blow them up to 1/18th scale .

Jeez what a pain for such a supposedly simple project. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Post by normandy » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:01 am

Pickel, I'd check known examples for the specs. Smithsonian has one.....uh, just did some more reading...seems the Smithsonian has the only one (the only original) surviving today. You may have to go with that.

You could check with Crazy Krauts friends and see what measurements they're going with.

http://www.ba349.de/Gallerie-Rumpfwerk.aspx

As far as the paint scheme, like the Horten..... I think we're in the realm of "what if".
I still want one. :D

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Post by Crazy Kraut » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:18 pm

I would really like to help. I´ll ask the guys and create an email contact.
This must work!!!
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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Post by Jnewboy » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:42 pm

Just upscale it from the 1/32 model or 1/48. I dont think anyone on here will mind a few millimeters of indiscretion one why or the other, just want to see it get made! Dont make it more painful than it needs to be.

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Post by 1958Zelda » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:54 am

Yes,keep it basic,any reasonable close looking item you produce will be great!

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Post by Crazy Kraut » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:58 am

Hey Matthew,
if you want I´ll let you know the email-address from this german Natter guy. He told me that you´re welcome to get in contact with him.
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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Post by pickelhaube » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:25 am

Crazy Kraut wrote:Hey Matthew,
if you want I´ll let you know the email-address from this german Natter guy. He told me that you´re welcome to get in contact with him.
regards
Sven

Sven ,

That would be totally cool of you !!!!!!

Maybe you can also invite him to join the forum :D :D :D
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Re: Who wants a " Natter " ( Viper ) ?

Post by pickelhaube » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:15 pm

I played hooky from the Tiger II project and was able to make up the drawings of the Natter in 1/18th scale.
The drawings form the Sky kit were the best that I have seen ,even from the 3 books that I have gotten for the subject.

These drawings are the Sky model's directions . Enlarged to 1/18th scale.

Here you go !!

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The Natter is smaller and shorter than the V-1 but the fusalage is a great deal bigger.
Because of that it looks bigger than I thought it would look.
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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by normandy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:13 pm

Very cool Matthew. Looks like this will be another fine 1:18 custom from the Pickelwerks.
Oh and I've got a few 21st Stuka Pilots ready for the Natter. :mrgreen:

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by Jnewboy » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:03 pm

Makes me want one even more!

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by pickelhaube » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:36 am

Finally got my pics back.

Things may be a little more relevant now.

Hopefully after the HIND winds down ( 2 months ????)

These are the projects that hopefully will come out in 2018 .

P-51 B backdate------------- 75% ready
Natter-------------------------I have prints and model to scale off of
105 Howitzer------------------80% ready
Blackhawk DAP package------50% ready
Huey D stretch-----------------planning stage only
Sdkfz 251 FUNK---------------Top antenna rack done
Sdkfz 223----------------------75% done need to finish MG mount and chair trapeze

Remolds

M-10
Sdkfz 222
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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by rschaap » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:52 am

This is exciting news, 2018 looks to be a good one for the hobby.

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by normandy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:18 am

This would be a nice kit Pickel.

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Way to much work in a metal launch tower.

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I think this might be the way to go, the pine launch tower but maybe not to scale (height), 33 inches is a bit tall.

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by pickelhaube » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:24 am

The way the aircraft is designed it could just sit on it's tail feathers in the verticle position.

Or I can get a wooden dowel cut to a determind height with the frame work attached like in you pic.

When /if the Natter were to go into production , they were going to place these telephone poles launching towers all through out Germany

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by normandy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:43 am

I found this picture while looking up info on the Natter....

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"Memorial for the Bachem Ba 349 „Natter“ at the Ochsenkopf near Stetten am kalten Markt; Baden-Württemberg, Germany. The stylised Balkenkreuz on the wings is not conform to facts. The site is in a restricted military area."

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by normandy » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:58 am

pickelhaube wrote: When /if the Natter were to go into production , they were going to place these telephone poles launching towers all through out Germany


Here are some pictures of the launch pads..

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Deployment launch sites NW for the Bachem Ba 349 „Natter“ at the Hasenholz forest near Kirchheim unter Teck; Baden-Württemberg, Germany. Wikimedia Commons.

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by pvanroy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:00 pm

I'd certainly be in for a Natter! Apart from the metal and wooden 'telephone pole' launch towers, other possible ways of displaying the model would be on its transport cart, or just on a simple wooden support (which is actually visible in the background in one of the photos posted higher). If I remember correctly, there were also plans for a road-mobile launcher, but this wasn't constructed before the end of the war.

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by Jnewboy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:54 pm

Know that I have the natter already expanded in hydrospan. I need to cast it and create the final master mold. I understand that means next to nothing with my track record of late.

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by normandy » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:40 am

The more I think about it, the Natter by itself would be fine.
pickelhaube wrote:The way the aircraft is designed it could just sit on it's tail feathers in the verticle position.
Displayed with a launch tower, it would take up way to much 1:18 space....which I'm running out of. :shock:

I wanted to build a 1:18 V-1 launch ramp.....

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....maybe in the living room. :P

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Re: Who wants a " Natter " Viper Scale Drawing Pics !!

Post by Crazy Kraut » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:31 am

I´ll definetly in for a Natter-Kit. With or without a launch tower. In height there is enough space in my 1:18 diorama so I´ll prefer it with wooden 'telephone pole' launch tower.
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