Small Scale Military Headquarters

Gentlemen, rumor has it, the 21st Century Toys Zero prototype is headed for ebay. Word is they're never going to build a Zero so why not offer it up to the collectors. Only seen once, I believe at Comicon in 2002? Not certain of the year.

But just as I said about the rare 109 being original. This one is for the storage vault. It is part of 1:18 scale history. After all, 21st Century Toys created the 1:18 scale.

Wow, just think it could have been 3 3/4 and we'd all be collecting GI Joe.

heiss66 wrote:After all, 21st Century Toys created the 1:18 scale.

Debatable. While they may have started accurate military in 1:18, they certainly didn't originate the scale.

heiss66 wrote:Wow, just think it could have been 3 3/4 and we'd all be collecting GI Joe.

What the hell does that mean? I know i've had a lot more fun posing Joes on my 1:18 stuff than i ever have with the "stuck in the '70s" t-crotch 21st figures.

............ I say , let'em fight over it on eBay just like the Desert 109 . "I really could care le$$".
Even if this turns out to be true.

* I'm happy w/ my 3 bbi ones.


- Mitch v MG

Good info, regardless of the usual naysayers, thanks for the intel.

MG-42 wrote:* I'm happy w/ my 3 bbi ones.

Me too

And wait - 21c did make two different types of Zeros with 6-7 repaints. Oh, wait, those were in 1:32 scale

Ta-152 wrote:

heiss66 wrote:After all, 21st Century Toys created the 1:18 scale.

Debatable. While they may have started accurate military in 1:18, they certainly didn't originate the scale.

heiss66 wrote:Wow, just think it could have been 3 3/4 and we'd all be collecting GI Joe.

What the hell does that mean? I know i've had a lot more fun posing Joes on my 1:18 stuff than i ever have with the "stuck in the '70s" t-crotch 21st figures.

Agreed on the "creation of 1:18" scale. The first toys in that basic range, which is the general 3.75" to 4" scale, were created in the 1970's (action figures that is, other more static figures may have come earlier of course). 21st Cent. made some really fun military toys though.

I've been into this scale since at least 1982 when I got my first GI Joe though, and really before that when I had Star Wars figures to play with.

Kenner, Hasbro, and many other companies probably have dibs first.

1/18 diecast model cars are a far larger hobby and really got going in the 80's, I always saw 21stC as piggy backing off of this to draw in car collectors (like me), rather than picking the more traditional 1/16 scale used for military models

mg wrote
* I'm happy w/ my 3 bbi ones.
Wasn't there four BBI Zero's?
JOC

JOC wrote:mg wrote
* I'm happy w/ my 3 bbi ones.
Wasn't there four BBI Zero's?
JOC

just the green, white, and white Sakai I thought?

bananapirate wrote:

JOC wrote:mg wrote
* I'm happy w/ my 3 bbi ones.
Wasn't there four BBI Zero's?
JOC

just the green, white, and white Sakai I thought?

BBI released 2 different green zeros.

...and two different white Zero's.

Thanks Guys, thought my old eyes were going bonkers. I do have both White ones and both Green ones.
JOC

What's different between the 2 green Zeros?

bananapirate wrote:What's different between the 2 green Zeros?

Just the squadrons. 1st one is from the 261st naval air group tora (tiger) 110 which btw they boffed the scheme, from the greenhouse back should be a different shade of green and they also left off the leader stripes on the wings. 21st got it right on their 32xw version.

2nd one is from the Kounioke training group kou-170 which later was relegated to kamikaze duties. It's pretty much correct and was supposed to be a "limited release" in asia only which didn't ring true since almost all online retailers in the US had them in stock at one time or another.

JOC wrote:mg wrote
* I'm happy w/ my 3 bbi ones.
Wasn't there four BBI Zero's?
JOC

>>> Hey "JOC" & FYI guys ... I just have the 1st. series P/H version & the 2nd. & 3'rd G/W
Z's . I passed on the last Tainan version for some reason. Guess I just didn't like it or it just looked too generic to me or something.

............ I waited & wanted them to do the suspected camo Solomon Islands version instead. "Oh well". ... Maybe sombody will do it eventually.

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- Mitch v MG

MG-42 wrote:

JOC wrote:mg wrote
* I'm happy w/ my 3 bbi ones.
Wasn't there four BBI Zero's?
JOC

>>> Hey "JOC" & FYI guys ... I just have the 1st. series P/H version & the 2nd. & 3'rd G/W
Z's . I passed on the last Tainan version for some reason. Guess I just didn't like it or it just looked too generic to me or something.

............ I waited & wanted them to do the suspected camo Solomon Islands version instead. "Oh well". ... Maybe sombody will do it eventually.

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- Mitch v MG

I bet JSI could do a fine paint job on that zero.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZERO-PROTOTYPE-FROM ... 35a745446e

Here it is. I would have hoped for more photos. not much detail in what we see.

It would be cool to own one of these. Too bad it never went into production. Though I can see with BBI's Zero release, it might have been a big if to put one out.

But hey, 21st put out many 32X Zeroes for us, and I appreciated that immensely.

This is out of my league, but I'm going to watch it just the same.

$2,000 and the reserve isn't met yet?

You have to be a hardcore xd nut to go after that one.

Whoa, look at the price!!!

Anyone still have actual pics of the prototype from the toyfair to compare? Seems to me like this one wasn't it.

AND THERE IS AT LEAST ONE BIDDER......

EVEN THOUGH THE RESERVE HAS NOT BEEN MET.

WHY LIST ITEMS LOWER THAN YOUR RESERVE? ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE STARTING REALLY HIGH TO BEGIN WITH.

IT'S NOT LIKE THE AUCTION WAS STARTED AT $.99 (LIKE WHAT EBAY WILL MAKE YOU DO IN THE VERY SHORT FUTURE)

I concur. A reserve price on an item like this is pathetic. Put what you want on it and let it go from there. A waste of everybody's time.

-Ski

Bring on the A-10 PROTOTYPE.