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ME-109E-4 - Desert - Prototype on ebay (NOT MINE)

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:34 pm
by CrazyinTexas
Alot of folks selling off their stuff. Here is ebay link. http://cgi.ebay.com/Messerschmitt-BF-10 ... 911.c0.m14

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:26 am
by DropTank
This will bring a $mile to the seller when it closes.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:22 am
by KWR190
Last time this was on Ebay it went for over $500.00

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:10 am
by art2614
Never seen this one but it looks nice! Why wassnt this produced and how many are out there?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:44 am
by Teamski
To the best of our knowledge, this is the only one. It was accidentally sold through 21st's site, when they used to sell planes on it years ago. 21st requested it's return, but the buyer kept it, of course.....

-Ski

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:51 am
by Tambo
Very nice... I'm sure this is going to go for Booku cash.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:48 am
by DocTodd
So this was really made by 21st century and not an aftermarket paint redo?
Todd

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:02 pm
by vmf214
KWR190 wrote:Last time this was on Ebay it went for over $500.00
Isn't the same one :wink:

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:21 pm
by vmf214
Teamski wrote:To the best of our knowledge, this is the only one. It was accidentally sold through 21st's site, when they used to sell planes on it years ago. 21st requested it's return, but the buyer kept it, of course.....

-Ski
Isn't the only one. Actually 3 exist, 21st had 2 and the 3rd accidentally got shipped via an old 21st fan club transaction in 2005 as ski stated. Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect. This guy is selling a helluva collection of nice pieces and to nonshalantly (sp) list it like it was a standard ole full blown production bird seems interesting. Below is a pic from the 4 for Victory drawings for the panels, hard to see from the size but the top one circled is one of the 3 prototypes, 2 of which 21st still had. If this is kosher then it's yet another one that escaped, and they must've "experimented" with adding some camo...considering the guy is in CA, maybe somehow he got his hands on one too, perhaps at an auction or something when 21st shut down..?..hard to say.
Image

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:23 pm
by KWR190
vmf214 wrote:
KWR190 wrote:Last time this was on Ebay it went for over $500.00
Isn't the same one :wink:
Its not :?: If not then the other one like it went for over $500.00

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:49 pm
by aae83
vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.
At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:41 pm
by vmf214
aae83 wrote:
vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.
At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.
Good eye, I see it now! Sweet, a second one now accounted for. Looks like 21st may have had a little auctionroony sometime after their demise.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:42 pm
by vmf214
aae83 wrote:
vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.
At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.
Geez the infamous double post.. :oops:

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:42 pm
by vmf214
aae83 wrote:
vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.
At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.
I wonder where #3 is...

[+] > Rare 21st. 109E "Desert" yellow 23

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:51 pm
by MG-42
* I'm watchin' this ! * :shock:



- Mitch v MG :p51:

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:44 pm
by NWarty
This is really cool to see this!

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:45 pm
by hworth18
art2614 wrote:Never seen this one but it looks nice! Why wassnt this produced and how many are out there?
This was never produced probably because it is the wrong scheme for this plane.. This type of scheme wasn't around until the G-2 variant.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:52 am
by gustav
It's now up to $467! I wonder how the seller obtained it? The seller only has a feedback score of 17, so I'd tread cautiously if planning to bid.

It appears JSI has the Me-109e-4 mold, so maybe they'll make this particular aircraft and undercut its value.

How do we know that there were only three of this version made?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:10 pm
by vmf214
gustav wrote:It's now up to $467! I wonder how the seller obtained it? The seller only has a feedback score of 17, so I'd tread cautiously if planning to bid.

It appears JSI has the Me-109e-4 mold, so maybe they'll make this particular aircraft and undercut its value.

How do we know that there were only three of this version made?
• JSI likely wouldn't do it because as Harry stated it's a totally incorrect scheme for an E model. Even if they did it wouldn't undercut it's value anyway since these are 21st made items and only 3 to boot. :wink: This is a true collectors item that will draw the attention of serious collectors as it obviously has already. JSI or anyone else doing this particular plane wouldn't change the fact that it's an original 21st prototype.

• The word that there are only 3 is straight from the horses mouth. A board member originally owned it and had inquired to 21st about it when he got it, they told him the scoop on it and asked if he would be willing to send it back, he opted to keep it obviously. It was confirmed again later.

I wouldn't be surprised if the one on ebay now was part of an auction or something when they liquidated, who knows. For all we know the dudes in their shipping and recv'ing that mistakenly shipped the first one out shipped a second at the same time... 8)

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:17 pm
by tmanthegreat
This is totally off topic, however, based on vmf214's photos above, Zach (aka TKO211) doesn't look anything like his action figure in the XD Vietnam figure line :P

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:51 pm
by VMF115
tmanthegreat wrote:This is totally off topic, however, based on vmf214's photos above, Zach (aka TKO211) doesn't look anything like his action figure in the XD Vietnam figure line :P
ROFLMAO.........

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:35 am
by gustav
The latest bid is over $800, which I think puts us in record territory for a 1:18 scale aircraft!

With two days to go, this thing may go for over a grand once the last-second bid snipers have their say.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:55 pm
by DropTank
gustav wrote:The latest bid is over $800, which I think puts us in record territory for a 1:18 scale aircraft!

With two days to go, this thing may go for over a grand once the last-second bid snipers have their say.
Last week a Blue Angel F-18 sold for $1,100. This may top that one.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:51 am
by tko211
tmanthegreat wrote:This is totally off topic, however, based on vmf214's photos above, Zach (aka TKO211) doesn't look anything like his action figure in the XD Vietnam figure line :P
LOL-

To be honest, knowing Roy and his sense of humor, he could have made me one of the african american soldiers in the Vietnam line.

Then he would have told me that it was meant to be a tropic thunder version of me...
"I'm the dude, playing the dude, disguised as the other dude".

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:55 am
by tko211
If you look at the item location in the auction it says: Oakland, Ca.

I have a strong feeling that this is the one from the old 21C archive vault. I think there were only like 3 of these things. I would love to say I have one but not to the tune of 800+ dollars.