ME-109E-4 - Desert - Prototype on ebay (NOT MINE)

CrazyinTexas · Post by **CrazyinTexas** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:34 pm

Alot of folks selling off their stuff. Here is ebay link. http://cgi.ebay.com/Messerschmitt-BF-10 ... 911.c0.m14

DropTank · Post by **DropTank** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:26 am

This will bring a $mile to the seller when it closes.

KWR190 · Post by **KWR190** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:22 am

Last time this was on Ebay it went for over $500.00

art2614 · Post by **art2614** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:10 am

Never seen this one but it looks nice! Why wassnt this produced and how many are out there?

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:44 am

To the best of our knowledge, this is the only one. It was accidentally sold through 21st's site, when they used to sell planes on it years ago. 21st requested it's return, but the buyer kept it, of course.....

-Ski

Tambo · Post by **Tambo** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:51 am

Very nice... I'm sure this is going to go for Booku cash.

DocTodd · Post by **DocTodd** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:48 am

So this was really made by 21st century and not an aftermarket paint redo?
Todd

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:02 pm

KWR190 wrote:Last time this was on Ebay it went for over $500.00

Isn't the same one

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:21 pm

Teamski wrote:To the best of our knowledge, this is the only one. It was accidentally sold through 21st's site, when they used to sell planes on it years ago. 21st requested it's return, but the buyer kept it, of course.....

-Ski

Isn't the only one. Actually 3 exist, 21st had 2 and the 3rd accidentally got shipped via an old 21st fan club transaction in 2005 as ski stated. Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect. This guy is selling a helluva collection of nice pieces and to nonshalantly (sp) list it like it was a standard ole full blown production bird seems interesting. Below is a pic from the 4 for Victory drawings for the panels, hard to see from the size but the top one circled is one of the 3 prototypes, 2 of which 21st still had. If this is kosher then it's yet another one that escaped, and they must've "experimented" with adding some camo...considering the guy is in CA, maybe somehow he got his hands on one too, perhaps at an auction or something when 21st shut down..?..hard to say.

KWR190 · Post by **KWR190** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:23 pm

vmf214 wrote:
KWR190 wrote:Last time this was on Ebay it went for over $500.00
Isn't the same one

Its not

If not then the other one like it went for over $500.00

aae83 · Post by **aae83** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:49 pm

vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.

At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:41 pm

aae83 wrote:
vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.
At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.

Good eye, I see it now! Sweet, a second one now accounted for. Looks like 21st may have had a little auctionroony sometime after their demise.

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:42 pm

aae83 wrote:
vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.
At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.

Geez the infamous double post..

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:42 pm

aae83 wrote:
vmf214 wrote:Looks fishy to me ie. the camo on the wing. Their release photo when they were debating doing this scheme does not have this camo, the one that the fellow got by accident does not have this camo, so I'm suspect.
At first, I thought the band on the wing was camo, too, but on closer inspection, I think it's just a weird reflection off the clear plastic packaging window. I'm not sure how else to explain that it seamlessly carries across the blue area between the wings and even beneath the ailerons.

I wonder where #3 is...

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:51 pm

* I'm watchin' this ! *

- Mitch v MG :p51:

NWarty · Post by **NWarty** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:44 pm

This is really cool to see this!

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:45 pm

art2614 wrote:Never seen this one but it looks nice! Why wassnt this produced and how many are out there?

This was never produced probably because it is the wrong scheme for this plane.. This type of scheme wasn't around until the G-2 variant.

gustav · Post by **gustav** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:52 am

It's now up to $467! I wonder how the seller obtained it? The seller only has a feedback score of 17, so I'd tread cautiously if planning to bid.

It appears JSI has the Me-109e-4 mold, so maybe they'll make this particular aircraft and undercut its value.

How do we know that there were only three of this version made?

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:10 pm

gustav wrote:It's now up to $467! I wonder how the seller obtained it? The seller only has a feedback score of 17, so I'd tread cautiously if planning to bid.

It appears JSI has the Me-109e-4 mold, so maybe they'll make this particular aircraft and undercut its value.

How do we know that there were only three of this version made?

• JSI likely wouldn't do it because as Harry stated it's a totally incorrect scheme for an E model. Even if they did it wouldn't undercut it's value anyway since these are 21st made items and only 3 to boot.

This is a true collectors item that will draw the attention of serious collectors as it obviously has already. JSI or anyone else doing this particular plane wouldn't change the fact that it's an original 21st prototype.

• The word that there are only 3 is straight from the horses mouth. A board member originally owned it and had inquired to 21st about it when he got it, they told him the scoop on it and asked if he would be willing to send it back, he opted to keep it obviously. It was confirmed again later.

I wouldn't be surprised if the one on ebay now was part of an auction or something when they liquidated, who knows. For all we know the dudes in their shipping and recv'ing that mistakenly shipped the first one out shipped a second at the same time...

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:17 pm

This is totally off topic, however, based on vmf214's photos above, Zach (aka TKO211) doesn't look anything like his action figure in the XD Vietnam figure line

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:51 pm

tmanthegreat wrote:This is totally off topic, however, based on vmf214's photos above, Zach (aka TKO211) doesn't look anything like his action figure in the XD Vietnam figure line

ROFLMAO.........

gustav · Post by **gustav** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:35 am

The latest bid is over $800, which I think puts us in record territory for a 1:18 scale aircraft!

With two days to go, this thing may go for over a grand once the last-second bid snipers have their say.

DropTank · Post by **DropTank** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:55 pm

gustav wrote:The latest bid is over $800, which I think puts us in record territory for a 1:18 scale aircraft!

With two days to go, this thing may go for over a grand once the last-second bid snipers have their say.

Last week a Blue Angel F-18 sold for $1,100. This may top that one.

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:51 am

tmanthegreat wrote:This is totally off topic, however, based on vmf214's photos above, Zach (aka TKO211) doesn't look anything like his action figure in the XD Vietnam figure line

LOL-

To be honest, knowing Roy and his sense of humor, he could have made me one of the african american soldiers in the Vietnam line.

Then he would have told me that it was meant to be a tropic thunder version of me...
"I'm the dude, playing the dude, disguised as the other dude".

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:55 am

If you look at the item location in the auction it says: Oakland, Ca.

I have a strong feeling that this is the one from the old 21C archive vault. I think there were only like 3 of these things. I would love to say I have one but not to the tune of 800+ dollars.

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