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What moulds could JSI have?

Post by flayrah » Fri May 08, 2009 9:32 pm

Well I've been gone a couple of days and return to the news of JSI! Very good news, indeed.

So what I would like to know is, what moulds actually exist? We have heard for years the kubel and jeep moulds were lost/stolen/destroyed (or maybe all three! LOL)- and there is talk the Spitfire mould is gone, too - but has that been confirmed? If so, that loss would be significant. There have been no recent P47 or Huey re-paints, I wonder if those are gone? and what is remaining?

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Post by tko211 » Tue May 12, 2009 10:33 am

If they have indeed taken over the Corsair & P-38 mold, the others on the list could be the P-51, Me-262's, MiG-15, Saber (maybe) P-40. It seemed to me that 21C had access to or had these molds there the last couple years and were at the same place.

Items that I highly doubt they might have would be Spitfire, P-47's, Fw-190D-9, Me-109E. As those molds would have liked to have been used the past couple years but were at a different factory, unavailable, lost, or ruined... Something was not allowing 21st to re-run them.

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Re: What moulds could JSI have?

Post by tko211 » Tue May 12, 2009 10:35 am

flayrah wrote:Well I've been gone a couple of days and return to the news of JSI! Very good news, indeed.

So what I would like to know is, what moulds actually exist? We have heard for years the kubel and jeep moulds were lost/stolen/destroyed (or maybe all three! LOL)- and there is talk the Spitfire mould is gone, too - but has that been confirmed? If so, that loss would be significant. There have been no recent P47 or Huey re-paints, I wonder if those are gone? and what is remaining?
Yeah, I am fairly certain that the Spitfire, 47's and FW-190D-9 are lost, broken, or whatever.

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Post by usmcchet9296 » Tue May 12, 2009 10:37 am

We need a new Huey
damned things are going for too much on Ebay
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Re: What moulds could JSI have?

Post by Airacobra » Tue May 12, 2009 10:42 am

tko211 wrote:
flayrah wrote:Well I've been gone a couple of days and return to the news of JSI! Very good news, indeed.

So what I would like to know is, what moulds actually exist? We have heard for years the kubel and jeep moulds were lost/stolen/destroyed (or maybe all three! LOL)- and there is talk the Spitfire mould is gone, too - but has that been confirmed? If so, that loss would be significant. There have been no recent P47 or Huey re-paints, I wonder if those are gone? and what is remaining?
Yeah, I am fairly certain that the Spitfire, 47's and FW-190D-9 are lost, broken, or whatever.
:cry: I was really hoping JSI would surprise us with some 47's and 190's. Don't get me wrong, I love Spitfires, but I really wanted a chance at the bubbletop 47's and 190's. Oh well, what can you do.

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Post by Dauntless » Tue May 12, 2009 11:14 am

It's a shame we can't get these older molds.

Do you think that JSI passed on some of them because they need updating?

I'm glad they got ME-262 mold. I'm still missing the single seater, and from what I've seen it's the best mold so far.

I could see someone putting out a Spitfire or Huey again. Those would be sure winners me thinks.
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Post by usmcchet9296 » Tue May 12, 2009 12:48 pm

To be honest id rather have a newer model Huey than a Nam version but right now id take any Huey under 60 bucks
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Post by Kleinesoldaten » Tue May 12, 2009 4:08 pm

I'm with you Chet. I'd love a Huey and at 60$, I'd be ecstatic. I know I'll get a P-38 for sure, the others I don't know.

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Post by Dauntless » Tue May 12, 2009 5:24 pm

Wish I had the Air Cavalry Nam Huey.
I've got the Air America.

I agree this mold needs updating.

You almost have to find someone who doesn't know anything about the internet to sell you one if you want it under $100. :(
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Post by SGT. ODDBALL » Tue May 12, 2009 6:34 pm

cant this new company make new molds?

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Post by DocTodd » Sat May 16, 2009 9:11 pm

tko211 wrote:
Items that I highly doubt they might have would be Spitfire, P-47's, Fw-190D-9, Me-109E. As those molds would have liked to have been used the past couple years but were at a different factory, unavailable, lost, or ruined... Something was not allowing 21st to re-run them.
I wondered why we never saw another release of the Spitfire, it was a nice model.

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Post by DocTodd » Sat May 16, 2009 9:13 pm

SGT. ODDBALL wrote:cant this new company make new molds?
I suspect they want to test the waters first to see what interest there is for the 1/18 planes. If the first ones sell well then maybe we will see new models later.
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Post by dragon53 » Sat May 16, 2009 9:26 pm

SGT. ODDBALL:

Yes, JSI can make new molds-----the 1/18 F-14, F-15 and SU-27.

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Post by Dauntless » Sun May 17, 2009 10:56 am

Yup JSI could (if they're smart :wink:) modify existing or make new molds for:

P-51 B/C Mustang
P-40 E Warhawk
Spitfire MK-etc.
Fockwulf 190 A
Huey

It's already been said by BCA that they were going to clean up some of the old molds. Why not make slightly different versions of the same aircraft.

Even if they don't have the supposably broken Spitfire mold anymore, they might have the information on how they made it the first time on the books.
It'd be a winner to do a new one anyways.

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Post by mountian-man » Sun May 17, 2009 12:28 pm

Here is what we know so far,

JSI definitely has 21st century moulds for:

Corsair

P-38

Tiger 1

They might have 21st century moulds for:

P-40

P-51

Mig-15

They don't have moulds for:

F-86 Sabre

Me-262

FW-190

P-47

Spitfire

Me-109E

So where are the other moulds???

JU-87 stuka

F-104 Starfighter

Me-109G

TBF Avenger


It has also been stated on this forum that bbi may have purchased some of 21st century's moulds as well!

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Post by SGT. ODDBALL » Sun May 17, 2009 1:22 pm

what about armor and troops? will jsi produce figures ,buildings ect.? and since there comming out with a tiger how about a sherman , and some other vehicles? unless there just testing the waters with aircraft only

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Post by Jolly Roger » Tue May 19, 2009 2:24 pm

What about the B25 and F4 that 21st supposedly had :roll:
Still withering away from the A-10 Hunger Striker.

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Post by tkjaer21 » Tue May 19, 2009 2:38 pm

Jolly Roger wrote:What about the B25 and F4 that 21st supposedly had :roll:
Nice one!

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Post by flayrah » Tue May 19, 2009 5:04 pm

Jason stated he knows JSI does not have the moulds for the F86 or Me262; I suspect Admiral bought those to prevent competition. If so, then there's a good chance bbi bought 21st's P51 and Me109 moulds, but that doesn't account for why they possibly didn't buy the Corsair.....IF this is true, then other moulds bbi could have bought to prevent competition are the Stuka and Avenger. The P40 and P47 moulds are now old, and maybe among the lost/broken/taken by extraterrestrials. But this is a lot of IFS and SUSPECTS. I really know nothing, just like Sgt Shultz.


The F4 never existed - it was just an attempt by 21st to one-up Admiral with an announcement and photo of someone elses scale model. The B-25 may have gotten to the design stage, but certainly there were no production moulds.
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Post by normandy » Wed May 20, 2009 3:15 am

What ever happened to the Panzer IV? Who's got those molds?

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Post by Dauntless » Wed May 20, 2009 6:57 am

I certainly hope Admiral bought the ME-262 and the F-86 Sabre.
That would even things out a bit. Seems 21st was nipping at their heels at every turn.

Come about would be fair play.

An expensive way to quash the competition though.

I'm very interested in who got the Avenger. Such an excellent mold, but as was said, someone needs to fix the sagging wings.

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Post by mikeg » Wed May 20, 2009 7:45 am

about those sagging avenger wings- we've all seen a round rubber grommet with the slit around the outside, why not a several inch long type pieced along that same idea? It would be pliable enough and maybe a few millimeters wide and would fit snugly on either side of the split, would it work? I'm not looking at the underside of one of the wings right now or I would probably realize there is no hope...

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Post by flayrah » Wed May 20, 2009 4:44 pm

Speaking of moulds, what about the 21st buildings/playsets?

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