Review of the 88 Flak Gun

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:56 pm

FOV 1:32 88 is in some respects still the winner in terms of detail. Despite its small size, it has the recoil, folding parts, working clamp and best of all, the cranks on that gun actually work to traverse and elevate the barrel

With the exception of the cranks, which I'm not certain about, I believe the 21C XD 88mm has all those features (see review at the beginning of the thread), plus I think it has a few other features that the FOV doesn't, like the pivoting caisson wheels and the locating pins on the ground pads, and possibly more. Maybe TKO could enlighten us some more in this regard.

Panther F · Post by **Panther F** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:20 pm

I didn't know that FOV had one. I just can't wait for my 21 Century 88mm to show up!

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:09 pm

the 88 also comes with 2 crates with 6 massive shells. These shells fit nicely into the breech of the gun. The towing arm can be fixed in a down or up position with a locking pin that is removable. Each of the foot pads on the 4 arms can be lowered. That and my previous review about covers it. Frankly one of the best things is all of the seperate molded parts that are then glued on to create layers of detail. It's a very complicated looking piece. Also read the instructions on this one. I almost couldn't figure out how to lock the carriages in place so that they would support themselves when placed on a solid surface. You guys will see what I mean.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:02 am

Thanks TKO. What I'm still not clear on is whether or not the hand cranks on the 21C XD 88mm gun are functional for elevation and rotation (traverse)...?? but even if they aren't, this would be the only feature that FOV's 32X version could claim to have an edge on. Based on what we've seen so far, I would have to say the 21st XD model appears to be superior in every respect. BTW, any speculation on what the S2 scheme might be... gray, or camo..??

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:05 am

Again this 88 is sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:36 am

sorry... You are correct that the hand cranks do not operate the gun. They turn but they do not move it up down right left. S2 was believed to be the german field grey color. At the time Roy had left there were no solid efforts made yet to commit s2 into production. I don't think we will see s2 anytime soon. It's the exact reason for me painting one myself.

P39time · Post by **P39time** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:33 am

I don't understand why such a nice gun as this does not come with any crew members.

Panther F · Post by **Panther F** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:25 am

While we're speaking of figures to go with the 88, are there any suggestions for me to look for? Gotta have a few next to it.

Ta-152 · Post by **Ta-152** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:51 am

There's an entire DAK series clogging pegs in lots of places to crew it with.

One even comes with a EM 1M R36 range-finder.

I was gonna get it for use with some of my old Joe figures, but i just can't justify it now.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:53 am

While we're speaking of figures to go with the 88, are there any suggestions for me to look for?

I suppose the DAK artillery crewman (the name escapes me at the moment... Erdman maybe..??) would be a must have, then add any (or all) of the remaining DAK figures to round out your gun crew.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:51 pm

Ta-152 wrote:There's an entire DAK series clogging pegs in lots of places to crew it with.

One even comes with a EM 1M R36 range-finder.

I was gonna get it for use with some of my old Joe figures, but i just can't justify it now.

Those area a must have for this piece.

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:52 pm

Precisely. Go get the DAK figures to man your 88's. This should clear the shelves of all those dusty figures and round out your 88 crew.

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:48 pm

Here are more pics. This time I used a 1:18 soldier to help visualize scale. This is also the progress that I have made thus far on my own version of a grey paint scheme. As you can see I have 1 more carriage to go still, then I will do a final airbrush effect to help pop the details and also provide a little weathering. Those wheel carriages take some patience and care to mask off and paint.

normandy · Post by **normandy** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:08 am

Looks Great TKO!!!! I guess 21st needed something to go with the DAK figures so they did S-1 88 in DAK yellow/tan.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:24 am

Zach that Looks good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:37 am

That grey version looks so

. Sure hope 21st makes one.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:51 am

tko211 wrote:

Now that is the way the 88 should look

I'm going to live happily with the current DAK version, but 21c should really have made their S1 version in something like TKO's excellent custom. After all, that is what they did with the 32x version...

Your work sure makes me want to get another and attempt my own custom

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:25 pm

[+] > Came home from work and Lo , "there the box was , sitting on my back steps". On time as ordered and shipped as scheduled from MTS !

.......... This thing is big ! *

... 14 & a 1/2" inches from muzzle to tow.

........ I love it ! ... I just may have to order anothern. *

-=-------> What an awesome piece this is ! ! ! *

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AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:01 am

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST RELEASES IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
21ST DOESNT ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST LAID PLANS AND PROJECTS GET STARTED AND NEVER FINISHED. THAT SAID IM GLAD THIS ONE MADE IT TO PRODUCTION!

P39time · Post by **P39time** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:16 am

Just imagine how nice the B-25 would have been.

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:18 am

I HAD LUNCH A MONTH AGO WITH 21ST MAN IN CHARGE AND THATS HISTORY! ALONG WITH THE 1/18 WITTMANN TIGER!
THATS THE ONE I WANTED.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:51 am

Got mine in from Foxhole yesterday, a big thank you to Matt and the guys at FHT, super fast shipping and superior customer service all the way.

Initial impressions on the piece... a very nice model with enough detail and functionality to satisfy the most demanding modeler or collector, and a must have for XD collectors. First order of business for me will be a re-paint, as DAK is not a collecting or modeling interest of mine. I was thinking along the lines of an Eastern Front Olive Grun camo pattern over the existing tan base color, removal of the DAK insignia and the addition of suitable replacements, and some beefed up weathering.

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:51 pm

So I get my "88" and I just looked at it for two days while I played with a new camera (got both the same day)...... So today, I unpack (how in the heck do those tiny fingers tape the inside of the box to the box sides? I've long ago given up on how they wrap the plastic string ties to those tiny parts.

So, I'm balancing the gun and box bottom upside down between my legs while I cut the wire ties on the bottom. It occurs to me that I'd be in trouble if maybe this is the first time that 21C doesn't use a couple of screws holding the vehicle to the black plastic bottom. AS the thought arrives in my peanut brain, bang...... I'm holding the box bottom and the "88" is on the floor........ cardiac arrest time...... I sat awhile and slowly pick the gun up. The only damage was a snapped axle. A relatively simple glue.

So............. watch out opening up your "88"". Don't pull a "TTT".

And BTW, the gun is a masterpiece, great work 21C, and somebody please think about making a big half-track to pull it........ we need one...

TTT

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Review of the 88 Flak Gun

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