New ebay Hornet inflation

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:42 pm

With shipping 16 bills will get you a nest of Hornets. WWII AC thrown in for free!

http://cgi.ebay.com/BBI-ELITE-FORCE-F-1 ... dZViewItem

iflabs · Post by **iflabs** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:36 am

King O' Fools · Post by **King O' Fools** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:55 am

And lo and behlod, “ALSO THE VERY RARE LIMITED EDITION WHITE CAMO ME-262”

I guess the “buyer beware” rule also applies here.

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:41 am

I have my exclusive and very rare collection of eight (count'em EIGHT) 1/18 QUAD .50CALs.... on trailers.... for sale at the super low price of $900.

Use buy it now, but you better hurry....

TTT

kduck · Post by **kduck** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:51 am

I can't speak for the value of the planes he's selling because I don't collect planes but the shipping is outrageous. He can probably ship them for about a quarter of the $195 he's charging. I took a quick look at the UPS website and I could ship a 40 lb package from GA to CA for about $52. And $560 for international?

King O' Fools · Post by **King O' Fools** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:01 am

Threetoughtrucks wrote:I have my exclusive and very rare collection of eight (count'em EIGHT) 1/18 QUAD .50CALs.... on trailers.... for sale at the super low price of $900.

Use buy it now, but you better hurry....

TTT

Rare, sure. But are they "long out of production?"

PS: Shipping two F-18s to Spain through USPS Priority Airmail would have cost around $100 a year ago. So shipping the whole lot NOW should be under $400.

c44588 · Post by **c44588** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:11 am

This is the same mentality that gave rise to the Enron fiasco, as well as the needlessly and irrationally inflated price for a barrel of oil.

Speculators kill me! This type of thing will of course start all the manufacturers and distributors thinking...'man did we underprice these things...'

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:50 am

Threetoughtrucks wrote:I have my exclusive and very rare collection of eight (count'em EIGHT) 1/18 QUAD .50CALs.... on trailers.... for sale at the super low price of $900.

Use buy it now, but you better hurry....

TTT

My God...

Coffee just came out of my nose.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:09 am

This is the same mentality that gave rise to the Enron fiasco

Actually the Enron debacle was largely outright theft and malfeasance by a small group of the top management of the corporation. The people who buy stuff on ebay that is way out of proportion to it's worth is largely due to their own stupidity, and usually doesn't have much if anything to do with the sellers. I do agree however that the current price of gas is due in part to speculation in the futures markets.

c44588 · Post by **c44588** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:09 am

I guess you did'nt hear all those Enron recordings by Skilling and others in the Enron power trading group who constantly joked about 'those idiots' who were willing to by their futures contracts at those horribly inflated rates. And a lot of people in Enron were making out like bandits....I knew MANY (and even knew some of the very senior mangt. level guys.)

CLEARLY a different level of rip-off with some govt. support, but it all gets back to the same issue; willing dolts and unscrupulous traders; or as PT Barnum said, 'A sucker is born...."

By my calculations, my collection is now worth $8,500...

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Bottom line is the cost of acquiring these things will go up...

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:20 pm

ostketten wrote:
This is the same mentality that gave rise to the Enron fiasco
Actually the Enron debacle was largely outright theft and malfeasance by a small group of the top management of the corporation. The people who buy stuff on ebay that is way out of proportion to it's worth is largely due to their own stupidity, and usually doesn't have much if anything to do with the sellers. I do agree however that the current price of gas is due in part to speculation in the futures markets.

Nice "m" word OK.

AlloySkull · Post by **AlloySkull** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:46 pm

Man, in 3 years, my tiny collection could sky rocket! (not that I care, I don't really get rid of things that I spent so much time on)

Somebody's gonna get the bone, good. But hey...

Stug45 · Post by **Stug45** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:28 pm

These look cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/TBF-1-AVENGER-1-18- ... dZViewItem

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:53 pm

Nice "m" word OK.

LOL...yeah Oli, that M word is just another way of saying "wrongful conduct", lawyers love this kind of terminology. As for the Enron crew... with the exception of Ken Lay who is pushing up daisies... the rest like Skilling and Fastow are all killing time in the graybar hotel if I'm not mistaken. The thing with ebay is.... no matter how ridiculously priced an item is, no one holds a gun to the head of a buyer to make them press the "buy" button... and I honestly don't see how overpricing by ebay sellers is "wrongful conduct" unless it's fraudulent or in violation of the rules in some way. As collectors we may find it distasteful, but there is a difference between unscrupulous behavior and criminal intent.

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:21 pm

ostketten wrote:
Nice "m" word OK.
LOL...yeah Oli, that M word is just another way of saying "wrongful conduct", lawyers love this kind of terminology. As for the Enron crew... with the exception of Ken Lay who is pushing up daisies... the rest like Skilling and Fastow are all killing time in the graybar hotel if I'm not mistaken. The thing with ebay is.... no matter how ridiculously priced an item is, no one holds a gun to the head of a buyer to make them press the "buy" button... and I honestly don't see how overpricing by ebay sellers is "wrongful conduct" unless it's fraudulent or in violation of the rules in some way. As collectors we may find it distasteful, but there is a difference between unscrupulous behavior and criminal intent.

I agree that if someone will pay for it, all the more reason. I am sure we have all paid what we felt was a high amount for some of our toys. For me it was a trade on two Europe-only PzIVs that ended up costing me about $240. I hated to pay it then and probably would not do the same deal again, but I really wanted them. Let me win the Lotto and who knows what I would do.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:42 pm

olifant wrote:
ostketten wrote: LOL...yeah Oli, that M word is just another way of saying "wrongful conduct", lawyers love this kind of terminology. As for the Enron crew... with the exception of Ken Lay who is pushing up daisies... the rest like Skilling and Fastow are all killing time in the graybar hotel if I'm not mistaken. The thing with ebay is.... no matter how ridiculously priced an item is, no one holds a gun to the head of a buyer to make them press the "buy" button... and I honestly don't see how overpricing by ebay sellers is "wrongful conduct" unless it's fraudulent or in violation of the rules in some way. As collectors we may find it distasteful, but there is a difference between unscrupulous behavior and criminal intent.
I agree that if someone will pay for it, all the more reason. I am sure we have all paid what we felt was a high amount for some of our toys. For me it was a trade on two Europe-only PzIVs that ended up costing me about $240. I hated to pay it then and probably would not do the same deal again, but I really wanted them. Let me win the Lotto and who knows what I would do.

Buy the real thing?

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:46 pm

VMF115 wrote:
olifant wrote: I agree that if someone will pay for it, all the more reason. I am sure we have all paid what we felt was a high amount for some of our toys. For me it was a trade on two Europe-only PzIVs that ended up costing me about $240. I hated to pay it then and probably would not do the same deal again, but I really wanted them. Let me win the Lotto and who knows what I would do.
Buy the real thing?

VMF, do you know how HOT I would look in my own Hornet?

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:52 pm

Yup you would look cool in it...............

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j/k poke..poke...

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:13 pm

That's how I roll...

License plate: "My other Hornet goes Mach 1.8"

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:15 pm

Think of all the XD you can fit in there.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:01 am

Man, that car brings back some memories... we had one just like it except it was a sedan not a wagon, and it was green. We used to call it 'The Green Hornet" LOL

paulpratt · Post by **paulpratt** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:51 pm

Hey all,
Sorry for being the obvious new guy here, but is it just the fact that this stuff isn't produced anymore that is driving the costs up? Or did they not produce enough to satisfy demand?
I was just wondering. I came here from hisstank.com, where I'm still active, so my son and I collect GI Joes.
We've been yearning for some of these 1:18 scale modern aircraft and armor pieces ever since we saw pictures of them mixed in some dioramas and general photos. We've found a few, but all the good stuff is long gone. We go to ebay and everything is like this auction, to damned expensive.
With the new Joe line-up I think a lot of people would come into 1:18 scale collecting if they only knew it existed. This type of stuff, scaled realistic military equipment and vehicles, i would have killed for as a kid.
Now i find it and it seems to be a dying art form.
Anyway, i apologize for the rant. I love this stuff and i feel really late to a party where all the cool drunk people have gone home, and the cops are just hauling away the people who didn't flee during the raid.

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:44 pm

I don't know about dying. How about slowed...

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:15 pm

Yes, the 1:18 production, if not collector demand, has slowed compared to what it was even last year. That tends to hurt new comers and annoy long-time collectors. I'm lucky in that I've been collecting the 1:18 tanks figures and aircraft since 21c first released their XD line in 2000. This board has played no small role in helping me find all the new stuff that is out there as well.

Part of the explosion of 1:18 military products on the market, as well as its recent contraction, was due to Wal Mart carrying 21c products. They carried the planes and armored vehicles for cheap and this encouraged new collectors. However, distribution woes really killed the line at Wal Mart. Remote stores would get 40+ of some items and perhaps only sell 10. Stores in more populated areas, where the products might have stood a greater chance of selling, never got any. The planes and tanks would then be severely discounted until they sold, which was a financial loss to Wal Mart and especially 21c.

The BBI F-18, even when it first retailed back in 2004, was never cheap compared to other 1:18 planes. The standard retail was around $90. Occasionally one appears for cheap (I got one in new condition from a fellow boardmember for $40) but for the most part they are expensive planes. Other aircraft that once were rotting on Wal Mart shelves, such as the XD FW-190D and Spitfires, now command a fortune on ebay. Most of these items are not truly rare, you just have to be vigilant and keep your eye's peeled for that once in a year deal

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:31 pm

I was late too and was thinking that 79 dollars for a blue angels F18 was crazy back in 2005 (it was on sale on badcataviation at the time ) i would have orederd 10 if i only knew ! luckily i bought one in 2007 for 100 us dollars and i must confess its a super model ! i understand the crasy prices on ebay ! i am waiting for the BBI thunderbird ! now i grab the interesting models just a few month after their release (it usually goes down a little) but i don t wait too long

for the badcataviation Blue angel´s episode i kick my own butt evryday when i see the prices

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New ebay Hornet inflation

New ebay Hornet inflation

man i was late too ! i discovered xd in 2004 !