The 21st King tiger thread

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:16 am

I cant wait to get my hand on this one, any one have any ideas on what it will have in terms of detail?

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:44 am

new feature= bigger price tag.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:02 am

As long as it not over a $100 usd

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:54 am

If we are stuck with a KT, as oposed to a M-26, M-18, M-10, M-24, T-34/85, a Churchil, even a Scout car....a White, or a Dingo....... I don't much care what features the KT has, I have shelf space for it, and my wallet is ready to be pried open...

TTT

Yoxford · Post by **Yoxford** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:07 pm

from The Motorpool
1st Issue: German Sd. Kfz. 182 PzKpfw VI King Tiger Ausf. B Heavy Tank - "Blue 104" (1:18 Scale)
List Price: $104.99
Sale Price: $89.99 Pre-order

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:24 pm

sheesh I was hoping high 60's low 70's

kimtheredxd · Post by **kimtheredxd** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:26 pm

$89.99? sale price

if its that much i am out i will stick with my 25 dollar FOV 1/32 scale one. Plus motor pool is saying its the lower hull that is cast metal. I like it better when it is the upper hull and turret.

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:31 pm

well, if the retail is anywhere close to $100 21c just shot themselves in the head.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:55 pm

100 USD is not all that bad...Lets consider the inflation of oil byproducts and transportation cost’s

CW4USARMY · Post by **CW4USARMY** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:30 pm

kimtheredxd wrote:$89.99? sale price if its that much i am out i will stick with my 25 dollar FOV 1/32 scale one. Plus motor pool is saying its the lower hull that is cast metal. I like it better when it is the upper hull and turret.

I agree. That is a ridiculous price unless it comes with a full crew.
How can a tank be the same price as what they quoted as the price of the F-4? and more than triple the price of their normal 1:18 armor offerings. This could be the beginning of the end of 1:18 from 21st. Time to buy some more FOV to keep them alive! Competition is the only thing that will keep prices in check!

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:36 pm

Anything die cast is going to cost more……. All the metals that go in to making die cast has gone up.
Come on we all know that a price hike was inevitable in this hobby.

Yoxford · Post by **Yoxford** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:05 pm

VMF is right, Anything die cast is going to cost more.

The US dollar is not worth what it used to be, add supply and demand, cost of petroleum that makes our hobby run, and we get some significant price increases…..Still I will be ordering that King Tiger. Less than my FOV 1/16 Extreme Metal, which I still think is a bargain.

True the 1/18 FOV is less expensive but it took me three months to bring the Tiger 1 up to snuff…the 21st Century KT looks to be 80% there….Remember, bottom line if we don’t buy em, they wont make em.

have a seat...Here are some other prices...

1st Issue: German 88mm Flak 36/37 Anti-Aircraft Gun w/ Trailer - Afrika Korps (1:18 Scale)
Pre-Order
List Price: $104.99
Sale Price: $89.99 Pre-Order

3rd Issue: Late Version German Sd. Kfz. 171 PzKpfw V Panther Ausf. G Medium Tank - "Red 332" (1:18 Scale)
Pre-Order
List Price: $104.99
Sale Price: $89.99 Pre-order

Light.Inf.Scout · Post by **Light.Inf.Scout** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:10 pm

Ouch! Glad I collect 1/32nd also.

EnemyAce · Post by **EnemyAce** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:17 pm

Hmm, I suppose this is what happens after they lost their walmart 'subsidy.' I would hope that TRU will carry these at closer to a $60-$70 price, if they carry them at all.

Now, doesn't everyone wish 21st would have skipped the KT and went with the 38t series in 1:18 instead?

Jagdpanther · Post by **Jagdpanther** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:18 pm

Well I will still buy both the 88 and KT but just one of each.

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:21 pm

I planed to get quite a few of them but for $100 a few could only be 2.

The e-tailers need to charge more to make a profit. But it they do make their way to TRU I am sure that it wil be in the $50 to $64 range. Just like the Avenger and P-38. Why do they have to make it diecast ? I am happy with plastic. When they change the Shermans and Tigers to metal I could care less. It was under the paint . You could not even tell except for the weight. Make the KT out of plastic put some rocks in it

and we are good to go.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:35 pm

While I agree that the prices are waaay to high, lets not jump the gun just yet with our bickering

USCGSARdog · Post by **USCGSARdog** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:41 pm

Looks like 21C gave me a whole new reason to continue my armor collection............. NOT.

For cryin' out loud, 90 bucks? Pre-order price? Are you kidding me? I agree, production costs have gone up, but this is a kick in the beans. Sad thing is, even less of the KT will be diecast than the Tiger was, and it still will cost more than double? I agree, sounds like 21C is trying to recover from the now defunct deal with Wally. If that is going to be their new sales strategy, good luck. They're going to need it.

-Rob

normandy · Post by **normandy** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:42 pm

Ouch is right, thats some big coin.

I wanted 4 or 5 of these Tigers.... I do hope they make it to TRU.
TKO if your out there could you give us some intel on this matter? And whats with this bicast stuff? ( bicast- metal and plastic. diecast - metal.) I'm fine with just plastic.

Any how I'm still looking forward to getting a few.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:45 pm

Yoxford is right, a lower US dollar means we will be paying higher prices.

I have a good feeling that by looking at the detail of the flak 88 that it will be worth every penny.

Btw the folks who run 21st and those that make our toys need to pay the bills and feed themselves

The thing is, I am not a rich guy and I am not all to bothered by this, I do have one ace up my sleeve I drive a doge neon , less gas means more XD.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:06 pm

I think we should make this a sticky.
The official King tiger thread

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:25 pm

VMF115 wrote:less gas means more XD.

That's the first sensible thing you've said the entire time you've been on this board, VMF

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:28 pm

tmanthegreat wrote:
VMF115 wrote:less gas means more XD.
That's the first sensible thing you've said the entire time you've been on this board, VMF

I think you meant:
"That's the first sensible thing you've typed the entire time you've been on this board, VMF "

J/K

Btw do we have another source for a preorder price on the tiger and flak 88?

CW4USARMY · Post by **CW4USARMY** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:24 pm

well, the good news is that at this price, it is just a matter of time before retailers offer sale, or even clearance prices because there arent many mommies that are going to pay 90.00 bucks for a half plastic tank when they can buy a whole division's worth of toys from other companies. Between ToysRus markdowns and E-tailer inventory reduction sales, I'll get one eventually

(now if 21st had decent customer relations, I would pay full price, but that's another horse that has long been beaten to death)

killoff · Post by **killoff** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:46 pm

I just knew the price was going to be UP there, just not that far UP there. I guess I don't have to eat for a couple of days, I need to lose weight anyway..