1:18 scale MiG29N and SU-27MKM TUDM (Malaysian AF)

MiG29K · Post by **MiG29K** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:17 am

I don't even know where to start... When I finally get these into inventory, I can finally quit. - (I will build one of these if necessary)

1/2 scale IRST (Infrared Search and Track System

Spudkopf · Post by **Spudkopf** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:44 am

What the F.....................

Details Please?????

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:55 am

they look like somebody's scratch building projects..

USCGSARdog · Post by **USCGSARdog** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:36 am

Rob has been at it again, yet another product of his maaaaad laboratory ..........

Could these be a couple of those HPH, high $, museum quality birds?

Both of these planes are AWESOME, but that SU-27 unreal. bbi, 21C and Admiral, take note.

-Rob

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:38 am

WOW.....

What's the story on these Rob?

Grilledcheese · Post by **Grilledcheese** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:03 am

As Doctor Evil would say, throw me a friggin' bone here...

Jeffrey

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:04 am

not HPH....the panel lines are drawn on, which is not HPH's style. I would guess these are home builts by someone living in Malaya, since they're in Malaysian airforce markings..

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:31 am

Cool, The canopy looks vacumformed.

Black_Dragon_One · Post by **Black_Dragon_One** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:02 am

so who is going to take a plunge and buy one so that we can have a real look at this baby.

what is the price marker on these i think they are under scale may be the camera angle.. i still think these are under scale...

jeffrowse · Post by **jeffrowse** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:22 am

They could be the sort of thing the "real steel" manufacturers take to air shows the world over - scale models of their products to show potential customers, often done up in the colours of the show's hosts nation as a marketing gimmick.
I've seen similar things at the Farnborough show, normally from the Russsian and (mainland) European companies; fighters and trainers look like the ones pictured, and airliners/military transports .

I think they're normally made from wood or solid plastic rather than vac-formed (look at the wing root on the fuselage in the third pic, the one with the Hawk 200 on its back) - I know they used to be, since Brutish Waste-O'-Space had a five-foot long Sea Harrier at Kingston, and a couple of display cabinets full of (roughly) 1/48th Harriers, Hawks and Tornados, plus a four foot Harrier GR7 in building lobbies at Farnborough.
I know I'd love to get my paws on the Kamov KA-50 Black Shark ('Werewolf') and some of the jets MiG took to Farnborough in 2004 & 2006...

Looking at the backgrounds in the pics (especially the bottom one!), these are scratchbuilds (in which case, well done to the builder!) or some lucky [expletive deleted] did manage to persuade someone to give up a couple of exhibition pieces.

AlloySkull · Post by **AlloySkull** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:13 pm

I want that MiG-29!!! Seriously, someone, somewhere, make one for me...

-cough- 21st, Admiral, BBI?

Black_Dragon_One · Post by **Black_Dragon_One** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:36 pm

hay send AT the picture of the mig may be at might make it..

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:56 pm

Damn I want that Flanker!

And those panel lines are drawn in? WOW. They looked scribed!

USCGSARdog · Post by **USCGSARdog** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:22 pm

Did a little research........ as aferg mentioned, these were in fact built by a modeler in Malaysia. They do however have scribed panel lines and are fairly well detailed. Certainly not up to HPH standards, but impressive nonetheless.

Believe it or not, the guy photocopies 3 view drawings and blows them up to 1/18 scale. That is pretty much what he builds from, in addition to other various reference photos. He builds a lite ply frame from the drawings, and fills the open areas with putty. He then sands the putty to shape.

Pretty simple concept, just very time consuming. This may be something worth experimenting with, considering his beautiful results.

Check it out here: http://z12.invisionfree.com/ScaleModels ... c=2619&hl=

Just what I need, another rainy day project.

-Rob

AlloySkull · Post by **AlloySkull** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:28 pm

Wow, that is a neat idea. Would take ALOT of putty though.

But I think it would be cool for a 1:32 Flanker. Not bad at all.

DocTodd · Post by **DocTodd** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:56 pm

Nice, definitely alot of work with the puttying and sanding. Definitely cool.
T

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:15 pm

he must have etched the panel lines with a black pen, which is why i thought they were drawn on. Very impressive work. I did something like that years ago, making a 1/48 sturmovik from layers of plastic card profiles traced from scaled up 3 views and then sanded to shape and that was a LOT of work. I can only imagine the effort that planes of this size would have been.

Very nice.

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:13 pm

USCGSARdog wrote:Just what I need, another rainy day project.

-Rob

Rob--try a rainy year!

USCGSARdog · Post by **USCGSARdog** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:32 pm

FieroDude wrote: Rob--try a rainy year!

Yeah, at the rate I finish my hobby related projects, that would be about right.

-Rob

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:38 pm

Hey Coast Guard ,
Thanks for the thread. I read the whole thing. The guy who built it said that he has 17 days into it. That is about 136 hrs. I feel I will have that in my project when I am done.The rib frame is a neat idea. I think that is the way I will go on my next scratch project. I was right he did do a vacuform canopy. It makes me feel good looking at other builders projects. It gives me inspiration.

MiG29K · Post by **MiG29K** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:42 pm

USCGSARdog wrote:Did a little research........ as aferg mentioned, these were in fact built by a modeler in Malaysia. They do however have scribed panel lines and are fairly well detailed. Certainly not up to HPH standards, but impressive nonetheless.

Believe it or not, the guy photocopies 3 view drawings and blows them up to 1/18 scale. That is pretty much what he builds from, in addition to other various reference photos. He builds a lite ply frame from the drawings, and fills the open areas with putty. He then sands the putty to shape.

Pretty simple concept, just very time consuming. This may be something worth experimenting with, considering his beautiful results.

Check it out here: http://z12.invisionfree.com/ScaleModels ... c=2619&hl=

Just what I need, another rainy day project.

-Rob

I also found a picture of what I believe was his 4 or 5 year old kid next to the Sukhoi and the plane seemingly dwarfs the little one. I saw the link that CG Rob posted and my idea for building my Fulcrum was not far off in concept with the exception that I was going to lay actual panels thus making the entire frame 'hollow' and making the aircraft weigh but a few pounds. I have been planning my project over a year exploring all options. The initial concepts thus far basically mimicks the basic MiG airframe and includes removable engines w contracting "Turkey Feathers". Other plans include having the louvres and FOD covers motorized if not at the least functional as seen on the model 9.12 (The Farnborough version that Anatoly Kvotchur / Roman Taskaev flew) That Malaysian modeller behind those projects is steppin his game up.

Black_Dragon_One · Post by **Black_Dragon_One** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:49 am

how much is ploy pudy

Black_Dragon_One · Post by **Black_Dragon_One** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:06 am

so who among us will try to do this?