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tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:53 pm

No telling on Wal Mart and the Flight 19 Avenger. It could be tomorrow, it could be never. I suspect they will show up there eventually, however. Hopefully it will be more of an even distribution with smaller caseloads instead of the recent trend with only some stores getting 20 and then drastically marking the rest down because they could only sell 6 of them...

Island Raider · Post by **Island Raider** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:38 am

I tried reading through all 1050 posts but my eyes started bleeding after the 700th post.

Does anyone know if 21C will ever make the screw caps available for their Atlantic Avenger? I love the plane but the holes are so distracting. And yes, I am too lazy to use filler.

Mike

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:56 am

Somewhere, buried deep in all of this (or maybe the 21st 1/18 manufacturer's thread), I seem to recall a statement that the tooling had already changed over and the screw caps would not be available, after all. I would think that by now, if they were going to be made available, it would have been posted here and/or on Area 21 by now. At this stage, the factory has probably moved way beyond it being an option. Which rather blows, since I too have one of the original "oops" models.

I guess I look at it this way: I can fill the holes and make a pitot tube to glue on, or I can hold onto it as-is and hope that someday mine will be one of the few rare and valuable unmodified originals from a relatively low production run.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:23 am

I agree with you on the screw caps - 21c has moved on. Afterall, Wal Marts across the country (just not any of the ones near you or me) were getting 20 or more "fixed" Avengers. Thus, in theory, we could all return our "defective" Avengers for the new ones. That was actually the response I got from a 21c rep that I e-mailed about the screw cap issue

However, thanks to some intel, I was able to get a hold of a "fixed" Atlantic Avenger from my brother, who found one in southern Ca. and return the other. The screw caps make all the difference

BTW, I gave in and ordered a "Flight 19" Avenger. Afterall, it was the Avenger scheme I initially ordered from BCA. According to the UPS tracking system, I should get it today

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:39 am

Another thing to think about...
Why is 21st putting out a new scheme so quick?

Makes no marketing sense - other than the small select few like us that want multiples? Sure there were some hold outs who did not want the atlantic version and waited for the next one.

The planes are big - and for many reasons most people will only own one Avenger. Now I see some bringing their atlantic version back and trading for the next scheme.

Would have made more sense for 21st to maybe wait a year for each version but it seems they will be out right after another.
It would have made more sense to have all the versions at the same time - but I know each scheme is costly.

WM, 21st century - all sides seem to make choices that harm the market in the long run.

This makes me believe WM will not get them and the next few schemes will be short runs.

Ok I ranted

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:54 am

I actually do have one of each version (pre and post-fix) of the Avenger, thanks to clearance pricing--we did get them in a couple WMs around here, although rather late in the game. Factor in that I got my pre-fix version back in September, and fairly cheap ($39.84, thanks to a pricing screw-up), I have been less bothered by the screw cap issue than those who got them later and for $70. My big debate is whether or not I should fill the holes and use it as a base for a custom PTO paint scheme, or cross my fingers that it may someday be like the Ferrari Daytona berlinetta--everyone wanted to have the much rarer Spyder so they converted coupes to convertibles. Now, it's the original coupe that is the rarer car.

As far as releasing the new paint scheme so soon after the last: 21st has done it many times before with the Mustangs and the Bf-109G6s, with 3 or more variants being released simultaneously. And since the Flight 19 version was announced ages ago, it's not like most collectors haven't known about it if they wanted one--if they were patient enough to wait (tman

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I plan on picking up one (NOT all 5, as much as I would like to), but I consider it a kind of special edition stand-alone piece, kind of like my Sky Captain P-40.

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:08 pm

tko211 wrote:I got the full set of flight 19 on my doorstep today! I have already assembled number 3 and 117. The flight 19 production planes are AWESOME!

4. Aliens! These guys are pretty sweet for a throw in extra.

I have the #28 plane on it's way here. Does it come with a human flight crew?

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:46 pm

It should come with the human flight crew - plus the alien as a fourth "bonus" figure!

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:55 pm

Okay, the tracking number for #28 has been generated, and I figure it'll arrive some time next week. Now I'll have the only Avenger I wanted in the first place. (the Atlantic version goes to my fiancee's dad)

Yeah!

der Vogelfänger · Post by **der Vogelfänger** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:14 pm

FieroDude wrote:Miracle of miracles, Mishawaka, IN WM has reduced their remaining Avengers to $35 (still tagged and signed at $49, though). Just five left! Never thought I would see it here am Arsch der Welt...

FD,

Arsch der Welt.....das ist lustig. Ich lache gern!!

dV

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:27 pm

Well I got my Flight 19 Avenger today

The all blue scheme looks great, and there is a ton more stenciling all over the aircraft. My only gripe is that the pilot's canopy on the right side of my plane is cracked! Also, the alien figure seems to be missing... I am contacting BCA tomorrow to see if at least the canopy issue can be rectified. They have not let me down with their customer service in the past. Other than the canopy and missing alien, it is a neat plane!

BadCatMatt · Post by **BadCatMatt** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:46 am

It appears that no alien figure was included with the flight leader #28 for some reason but the rest of the flight has a version of him in there. ??

21st has confirmed this as so.

MK · Post by MK » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:32 am

BadCatMatt wrote:It appears that no alien figure was included with the flight leader #28 for some reason but the rest of the flight has a version of him in there. ??

The same can be said with this one on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultimate-Soldier-Av ... dZViewItem

What's funny is I was watching Close Encounters of the Third Kind yesterday and the aliens did return the pilots from Flight 19.

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:54 am

BadCatMatt wrote:It appears that no alien figure was included with the flight leader #28 for some reason but the rest of the flight has a version of him in there. ??

Well doesn't that just figure!

Thanks for your help on my preorder yesterday by the way Matt.

Post by **p51** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:19 pm

Planes of Fame Museum at Chino Airport has Avengers in stock (Atlantic Scheme)

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:21 pm

MK wrote:What's funny is I was watching Close Encounters of the Third Kind yesterday and the aliens did return the pilots from Flight 19.

It was the "cameos" of the Flight 19 planes and crew that brought the memory of the lost flight and all the theories for its disappearance back into the public consciousness. A great beginning for a film about extraterrestrial contact - and one of the reasons I wanted one of the Flight 19 Avengers

I always wondered what it would be like as one of those pilots in the film - coming back to a world then 30 years removed while seemingly only yesterday you were taken by the aliens...

CessnaDriver · Post by **CessnaDriver** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:17 am

tmanthegreat wrote:
MK wrote:What's funny is I was watching Close Encounters of the Third Kind yesterday and the aliens did return the pilots from Flight 19.
It was the "cameos" of the Flight 19 planes and crew that brought the memory of the lost flight and all the theories for its disappearance back into the public consciousness. A great beginning for a film about extraterrestrial contact - and one of the reasons I wanted one of the Flight 19 Avengers

I always wondered what it would be like as one of those pilots in the film - coming back to a world then 30 years removed while seemingly only yesterday you were taken by the aliens...

Funny, I was just joking about this tonight with my buds when I saw the Avengers at Walmart.

I think I would have strangled one of those damn aliens!, kidnapping them and dropping them off in a time when their families are way older or dead. Wives far older and remarried, parents possibly dead, children grown.

Hey, like the goverment portrayed in the movie was going to let them just waltz back and tell everyone too.

I mean unless the aliens saved them from certain death, they should have been polite enough to ask. LOL

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:25 am

which Avengers?

CessnaDriver · Post by **CessnaDriver** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:14 pm

[quote="STUKA"]which Avengers?[/qu\ote]

Just the atlantic ones. Sorry, didnt want people to think the lost squadron ones were at Walmart.

pokeyjtc · Post by **pokeyjtc** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:10 am

I got the last Atlantic Avenger for $10 today. Would've had two but another guy got to it 2 seconds before I did. Still quite a score. Made my Sunday.

Lowlevlflyer · Post by **Lowlevlflyer** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:24 am

First post, and I'm just getting started in 1:18th warbirds. My wife bought me the "Seemann"scheme 109-G for Christmas, and I just picked up an Atlantic scheme Avenger yesterday at Wal Mart in Ardmore, OK. They had 7 of them on clearance for $20. Definitely gonna have to build some bigger shelves in my office!

Tinman · Post by **Tinman** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:54 pm

Glad to have you, Lowlevlflyer! Enjoy the addiction.

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:49 pm

WOW! They're practically giving away the Avengers now with all these low clearance prices.

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:49 pm

Maybe this has been covered, don't recall, if so then sorry. Anyway, the alien pic that was on Area 21 last year is the same alien that comes with the new Avengers, also, if you recall they posted 2 pics of the alien for us to try and figure something out. Well the top pic is an alien that looks like crawling out of an Avenger cockpit, you can make out the canopy frame. Bottom pic I still don't know but the canopy seems to be in view as well.

MIGMADMAVIS · Post by **MIGMADMAVIS** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:57 pm

our Wal MArts dont seem to have any!!!!, and ive been looking for one forever!!!, My other one broke because someone in my family doesnt know how to respect valubles. ANy Help?

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