ME-109E-4 - Desert - Prototype on ebay (NOT MINE)

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Post by grunt1 » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:53 pm

Nice catch, beautiful bird. :D Post some high res pics if you can... Also can you post a pic of the bar code if it has one?

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Post by snake » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:16 pm

Congratulations JL.
An awful lot of money,but an extremely rare model.
You really must be very happy to have this in your collection.

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Post by VMF115 » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:14 pm

Congratulations! 8)
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Post by Teamski » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:27 am

Definately hardcore XD action there, JL!

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Post by KAMIKAZE » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:56 pm

Nice addition to your collection John! Now what happened to that king Tiger?
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Post by gouchy » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:11 am

Another one on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2000-WWII-Messersch ... 5885d90e4a

Is this a PWP replica or actual prototype?

Anyone excited about the PWP Super Sabre?

https://www.militarytoyshop.com/prodtyp ... istory=cat

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Post by Buckyroo » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:07 am

I saw that last night. To me its been hand painted/not real. I asked the guy if it was a custom, but have not heard back yet.

I noticed tape lines in the paint, missing screw covers, mis match painted screw covers, what appeared to be brush marks on the markings and numbers, plus more. Maybe I am being too critical, but for $950.00 I would have to be. Just my $.02

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Post by King O' Fools » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:09 am

Indeed. The numbering seems to have been at least partly painted on freehand. And the missing and mismatched screw caps... Somehow I'm more inclined to believe this is the genuine 21st article. At least it would be consistent with their infamous track record. That QC thing sure wasn't the company's strong suit, was it? :lol:

They could have used TKO211's painting skills at 21st's prototyping department. You'd think the head honchos there would be salivating at his technique.

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Post by mkxiv » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:48 am

not a PWP. They only did 2 and I still have them.

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Post by gouchy » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:45 pm

sharp eyes guys :D

wow if this is genuine 21st, there's like only 3 of these ever exists? This is the 2nd one to see the light of day in the space of 4 months.

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Post by gliderdwm » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:12 pm

I think this is bogus.That 23 looks really bad and the tape line is really noticeable. I know the QC was bad at times but come on.

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Post by Buckyroo » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:57 pm

I asked the seller if this was a custom and their answer......

"HI: I think so."


Wouldn't that be helpful to put in the listing...maybe not for the seller.....

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Post by flyboy_fx » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:42 pm

For SURE a custom.
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Rare Bird on ebay is the Real Deal.

Post by heiss66 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:39 pm

No way is this one of those fake paint masters from those guys. What's their name? 21st Century Toys, Inc should sent those character a C&D just for this reason alone.

I was told the person selling this rare beauty received it as a gift by the owner of 21C way back in the day as a token of appreciation for their work on a special project. They we told at the time that someday this airplane may be worth some money.


So all of you Thomas's out there, take It from me it's the real deal.

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Post by gouchy » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:01 pm

It'll be interesting to see if johnlumley has any input on this

Wonder if the box and the gray base is unique to this model?

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Re: Rare Bird on ebay is the Real Deal.

Post by DropTank » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:18 pm

heiss66 wrote:
So all of you Thomas's out there, take It from me it's the real deal.
Well my name is not Thomas, so I say bogus. The detail on this 109 is sloppy at best. I find it hard to believe this is an official 21st prototype.
It is also not a scheme I find interest in and if I did, I would custom paint another 109 to match and save $900. jmo
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Post by gustav » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:26 pm

So all of you Thomas's out there, take It from me it's the real deal.
Do you want to be the first to bid on it then, since it's no-doubt legit?

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Re: Rare Bird on ebay is the Real Deal.

Post by Buckyroo » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:54 pm

heiss66 wrote:No way is this one of those fake paint masters from those guys. What's their name? 21st Century Toys, Inc should sent those character a C&D just for this reason alone.

I was told the person selling this rare beauty received it as a gift by the owner of 21C way back in the day as a token of appreciation for their work on a special project. They we told at the time that someday this airplane may be worth some money.


So all of you Thomas's out there, take It from me it's the real deal.
If this were the case then why would the seller respond to indicating this was a custom? Where are the screw covers? Why would the right wing gun barrel be bent when the plane is in the box and then the barrel becomes smaller, silver and straight when the plane is out of the box? Its been removed for the twist ties went into the opening in the bottom of the plane and did not go over the top/canopy. The screw to hold the wing on is installed on the underside of the fuselage and not taped to the underside of the tray.

I find it very hard to beleive that this is real......

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Post by pickelhaube » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:31 pm

You guys missed the X on the rudder that is hand painted as well.

Also it is a custom painted figure. The iron cross around the neck is a little rough.


So my virdict .

100 % bogus.
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Post by NWarty » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:39 pm

pickelhaube wrote:You guys missed the X on the rudder that is hand painted as well.

Also it is a custom painted figure. The iron cross around the neck is a little rough.


So my virdict .

100 % bogus.
Agreed.

And with a STARTING bid of $950.00??? Yeah right...

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Post by DropTank » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:04 pm

NWarty wrote:
Agreed.

And with a STARTING bid of $950.00??? Yeah right...
Well I guess $omebody thinks it's legit. Geez Whiz!!!
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Post by Buckyroo » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:13 pm

I feel badly for that bidder ...nearly $1,000.00 for something that has a very strong chance of being a custom. :shock:

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Post by vmf214 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:13 pm

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Post by JohnLumley » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:37 pm

VMF214 is correct. :D

Looks absolutely legit to me as well.

All three have now been accounted for.



I noticed the listing has been pulled from e-bay. No longer can be viewed.




Correction: I found the e-bay listing. I was clicking on the wrong hyperlink. :oops:
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Post by vmf214 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:56 pm

I checked the listing and it's still viewable, that's weird.

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