uh oh?

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:36 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultimate-Soldier-XD ... dZViewItem

Don't know if this means anything or not; or if it is a bad sign or not..

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:45 am

Proto type Hmmm....

He did not elaberate on it. Maybe just a Panther with the paint striped off of it.

OR IT IS HOT ????

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:48 am

or is 21c in their desperation selling off the last little bits of their company?

acisne · Post by **acisne** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:49 am

May not mean much. In the 1/18 diecast world we constantly see models listed that are not out yet, they always seem to originate in China though.
They usually do not have a box. They seem to be snuck out of the back door of the factory.

KWR190 · Post by **KWR190** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:59 am

I think this was brought up back on the old GP site I think he got it on accident like how the Trop 109 got out when the they sold them off there web site or he was the guy that helped out in there booth at the toy show a few years back.

CENT-ONE · Post by **CENT-ONE** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:26 am

KWR190 wrote:I think this was brought up back on the old GP site I think he got it on accident like how the Trop 109 got out when the they sold them off there web site or he was the guy that helped out in there booth at the toy show a few years back.

I remember something along these lines being the case. There was also the all green Patton Command Car prototype that someone ( I wanna say flayrah or teamski for some reason ) bought off the shelf at TRU.

I'm betting that the auction and the status of 21st are completely unrelated.

aae83 · Post by **aae83** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:34 am

Based on this discussion, it seems some may not be aware this is one of our members: ParatrooperCarbine.

Give him some time and he'll probably say where the protos came from. It seems to me he's had these and others for years, but I could be misremembering.

Here's his thread: viewtopic.php?t=15174

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:23 pm

I was going to say.... I have bought and sold through e-bay with the seller on more than one occasion over the years, and there was never any known direct connection to 21st. It is nice to know that it is actually one of our own forum members, though!

Jesse James · Post by **Jesse James** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:38 pm

It could just as easily be a test shot... Prototypes are usually not so "nice". That looks to me like it was a test shot to see how the molds did to put together a full toy. It's even cast in the appropriate colors. Toys have tons of test shots that come out.

LIke with other toys mentioned, Star Wars sees "prototypes" or test shots out on Ebay constantly before the actual toy is released. It's pretty common really, so I don't think this is indicative one way or the other of 21st selling off things in a panic. Not that they couldn't be doing that either, you never know really, but I wouldn't worry right now. I think the company would say something officially if they were bailing all together.

hotrodrock · Post by **hotrodrock** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:02 pm

Just about every toy manufacturer has prototypes show up on ebay. Some are given to employees, some are taken by executives when they leave their company, some are sold out the back door, and some are just plain stolen.

Some of you may have heard of the Racing Collectibles Club of America. They sell Nascar diecast. There was an executive that left that company several years ago that sold dozens and dozens of prototypes on ebay.

Rogue 01 · Post by **Rogue 01** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:16 pm

Well we love to customize we can take almost anithing and make it look great so this can be one

normandy · Post by **normandy** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:30 pm

And what about TKO's pink Pak-40 I wonder what that would go for?

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:01 am

I don't think this is the first time a "prototype" of this or that 21C item has ever appeared for sale on ebay, I wouldn't read too much into it.

Light.Inf.Scout · Post by **Light.Inf.Scout** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:36 am

Any news from Paratroopercarbine on the background of this item?

aae83 · Post by **aae83** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:21 pm

Yes; in the other thread he said:

About 4-5 years ago I came into contact with a guy who worked at 21C creating their box art. He got one each of the items he did art for, and also picked up these prototypes along the way. He sold me several of the boxed figures and the 1:18 items.