Questions on the Bravo Team Tiger Quality...
Questions on the Bravo Team Tiger Quality...
Does any one owen the Tiger I and if so what are your thoughts on the quality? Would it be worth a E-Bay price of $40.00 plus shipping? I know that is twice the store price if I could find one. Would like a little input before I drop the money.
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It really depends on what you like. I would say that the overall opinion on the board has been positive. The tank is accurate to a mid-production Tiger, has generally good paint apps, and of course the zimermit It lacks most of the finer details present on the 21c Tiger, or even the 1:32 FOV Tiger for that matter. Only the commander and loader hatches open. The turret turns, tracks roll, and mudflaps are movable. The tools and stowage are not removable and are moulded onto the tank. The Driver & forward gunner's hatches don't open, and neither do the engine and radiators. The radiator gratings are not hollow and simply moulded on.
I am personally a bit more mixed about the FOV Tiger, probably because I like the 21c version so much. I bought one and kept it around for a few weeks, but finally sold it to another boardmember. I will admit it looked good, but the lack of details really bugged me on this tank, for some reason.
$40 for one is not too much over the original $30 store price and since the tanks are not exactly common, you may just get some bids for it.
Hope all this helps
I am personally a bit more mixed about the FOV Tiger, probably because I like the 21c version so much. I bought one and kept it around for a few weeks, but finally sold it to another boardmember. I will admit it looked good, but the lack of details really bugged me on this tank, for some reason.
$40 for one is not too much over the original $30 store price and since the tanks are not exactly common, you may just get some bids for it.
Hope all this helps
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Well, this time I think it is about the money. If you had to get it off of ebay and pay in the $40-$50 range (including shipping) I don't think the quality and detail merit that price (even though thats how I had to get mine). If you got it from Target for $8-$10 on clearence like some of the members did, then the quality and detail are certainly worth more than that price. The 21C is cerainly more detailed but then it costs more. Anyway, I guess my problem with it is really what I had to pay to get one. The five Targets I visited had none.
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I would tend to agree with one exception: If you were buying it for a repaint and/or customization project then I think it's worth it, especially if you cannot procure one locally at retail. I got one from a boardmember here for the express purpose of repainting, it cost me roughly $40 and I think it was a great deal considering they never showed up in local Target stores around these parts, and the alternative from ebay would have almost certainly been more costly. Anyone want to take bets on what a well done custom of this model would fetch on ebay...?? I can easily see one going for $100 plus, and I think it's just a matter of time before a custom appears for sale on ebay....stay tuned....If you had to get it off of ebay and pay in the $40-$50 range (including shipping) I don't think the quality and detail merit that price
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[+] FoV Tiger I [+] = ( ? )
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Good luck, I believe that will be very tough to do on an FOV Tiger because pretty much the entire hull on the Jagdtiger is completely different than the Tiger I. If and when 21C comes out with the much anticipated King Tiger, you'd have a much easier time of it, but I think it would be very difficult to do on a Tiger I.a couple to be modified to Jagdtigers.
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Finally on the front side of the buying curve. Got 6 of the Target Tigers.
Opinion - beats 21st in spades.
Its the TRACKS, Tigers have one of the most unique tracks of anything and the Target Tiger has one of the best replicas out there. 21st are neither combat nor transport - try making the tracks wider bunky
Its the zimmerit (?) - try putting that on 21st - I did 4 of them - wonder why my room is padded.
Its the front of the turret - its correct for the model - see above - maybe I do know why its padded.
Its the hull - especially the front armor plate and the engine decking
Its the road wheels - granted not enough but I ended up casting all the road wheels for 21st cause the hubs are wrong.
Yes the grills are solid - however 21st are so bulky you have to grind the daylights out of them to bring them down to "sit" on the hull
Yes everything is molded in (course that does beg the question of how many of you dig around in the yard with a 1/18 shovel)
Yes there are no "insides" - well whooppy t ding dong.
Yes ther's not enough road wheels - its actually going to be easier to correct that than trying to correct 21st.
Yes there's no zimmert on the front deck slope - things like that can make one go screaming down the hall but the meds take care of that.
Now, if you're into play things the 21st is your cup of tea.
We used to call things like the 21st Tiger - stand off scale - if you stood far enough away (like a mile or so) its very scale.
And - I do have 8 of 21st - I quit trying to modify them after the 4th one.
Target Tigers - like the 21st TBF - are one the really great buys.
Course if someone offered a 21st Tiger for a buck - I'd take it - I always wanted to do the "after" of Whittman's 007.
They're here with the meds so I have to quit.
Opinion - beats 21st in spades.
Its the TRACKS, Tigers have one of the most unique tracks of anything and the Target Tiger has one of the best replicas out there. 21st are neither combat nor transport - try making the tracks wider bunky
Its the zimmerit (?) - try putting that on 21st - I did 4 of them - wonder why my room is padded.
Its the front of the turret - its correct for the model - see above - maybe I do know why its padded.
Its the hull - especially the front armor plate and the engine decking
Its the road wheels - granted not enough but I ended up casting all the road wheels for 21st cause the hubs are wrong.
Yes the grills are solid - however 21st are so bulky you have to grind the daylights out of them to bring them down to "sit" on the hull
Yes everything is molded in (course that does beg the question of how many of you dig around in the yard with a 1/18 shovel)
Yes there are no "insides" - well whooppy t ding dong.
Yes ther's not enough road wheels - its actually going to be easier to correct that than trying to correct 21st.
Yes there's no zimmert on the front deck slope - things like that can make one go screaming down the hall but the meds take care of that.
Now, if you're into play things the 21st is your cup of tea.
We used to call things like the 21st Tiger - stand off scale - if you stood far enough away (like a mile or so) its very scale.
And - I do have 8 of 21st - I quit trying to modify them after the 4th one.
Target Tigers - like the 21st TBF - are one the really great buys.
Course if someone offered a 21st Tiger for a buck - I'd take it - I always wanted to do the "after" of Whittman's 007.
They're here with the meds so I have to quit.
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THANK YOU! VERY GOOD REVIEW. I really have been holding my pie hole shut on this because so many are so in love with the 21st Century Tiger but….
I too have spent a year trying to bring the 21st Century up to speed and finally gave up on it. Three weeks into customizing a FOV Bravo Tiger and it is turning out to be real show stopper. (even though the conversion has taken one FOV and one 21st Century for misc. parts) it was well worth the sacrifice.
True the FOV Tiger 1 does not have inaccurate driver and radio hatches that open to reveal an inaccurate interior, no out of scale hinged rear grills that “open”, nor are the tracks too narrow, entire profile/armor angle wrong, misshapen turret, deformed muzzle brake, … and on and on…
If you still think the 21st Century Tiger is “spot on” and more detailed that the FOV 1/18, then you obviously have not only a more vivid imagination than I could ever attain you also possess the acute eye for detail surpassed only by Stevie Wonder…
Better yet, I have a custom 1/18 Stug IV made from a shoe box I will sell ya for $20 (Hell, I will even get out the x-acto and cut some “opening” hatches for ya) …..
THANK YOU! VERY GOOD REVIEW. I really have been holding my pie hole shut on this because so many are so in love with the 21st Century Tiger but….
I too have spent a year trying to bring the 21st Century up to speed and finally gave up on it. Three weeks into customizing a FOV Bravo Tiger and it is turning out to be real show stopper. (even though the conversion has taken one FOV and one 21st Century for misc. parts) it was well worth the sacrifice.
True the FOV Tiger 1 does not have inaccurate driver and radio hatches that open to reveal an inaccurate interior, no out of scale hinged rear grills that “open”, nor are the tracks too narrow, entire profile/armor angle wrong, misshapen turret, deformed muzzle brake, … and on and on…
If you still think the 21st Century Tiger is “spot on” and more detailed that the FOV 1/18, then you obviously have not only a more vivid imagination than I could ever attain you also possess the acute eye for detail surpassed only by Stevie Wonder…
Better yet, I have a custom 1/18 Stug IV made from a shoe box I will sell ya for $20 (Hell, I will even get out the x-acto and cut some “opening” hatches for ya) …..
The sign of a great model is that one’s eye is not drawn to any one feature, yet one can study it for hours and continually find something new.
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Hey!!!!!!!
That would make a great contest.....the best looking Tiger......Everybody loves a good Dressed up tiger, and just about everybody has customized - in one way or another - A tiger.
If such a contest should ever take place, WooferCustoms mite be willing to donate a Custom ??????? as part of the prize to the winner, I can't help it-----I just love a good looking tiger----- .
So whether it might be a good idea or the dummest thing you ever read---It was just a "Idea"
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That would make a great contest.....the best looking Tiger......Everybody loves a good Dressed up tiger, and just about everybody has customized - in one way or another - A tiger.
If such a contest should ever take place, WooferCustoms mite be willing to donate a Custom ??????? as part of the prize to the winner, I can't help it-----I just love a good looking tiger----- .
So whether it might be a good idea or the dummest thing you ever read---It was just a "Idea"
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[+] New FoV Tiger I "002" [+]
[+] > Sorry to disappoint everyone directly involved but , I won't be entering this contest.
[+] > ....... but I will say this however , that this New Tiger is far more accurate than 21st.'s + the fact it has more potential so you can do alot more w/ too , and now that I have it to compare w/ , the 21st. Tiger seems very toylike to me.
[+] > Summery : "I don't care what anybody says (+) about the 21st. Tiger , I like my FoV , the best".
Mitch v MG
[+] > ....... but I will say this however , that this New Tiger is far more accurate than 21st.'s + the fact it has more potential so you can do alot more w/ too , and now that I have it to compare w/ , the 21st. Tiger seems very toylike to me.
[+] > Summery : "I don't care what anybody says (+) about the 21st. Tiger , I like my FoV , the best".
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I went through 3 21st Tigers before I said, "Oh screw it."The Old Man wrote: We used to call things like the 21st Tiger - stand off scale - if you stood far enough away (like a mile or so) its very scale.
And - I do have 8 of 21st - I quit trying to modify them after the 4th one.
Then I got myself a 1/16 Tiger I RC Tamiya kit. And my Tiger cravings were finally sated.
(Not really)
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I got a couple of those tamiya RC kits myself, They are really nice,-------
About a Tiger 1 contest It was just a idea, I'm like MG-22, I won't enter it or even judge it, but i might throw a couple prizes in just to see some nice customs, "heck" it don't have to be a contest at all--I would like to see a nice Early Tiger in 1/18.
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About a Tiger 1 contest It was just a idea, I'm like MG-22, I won't enter it or even judge it, but i might throw a couple prizes in just to see some nice customs, "heck" it don't have to be a contest at all--I would like to see a nice Early Tiger in 1/18.
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In the red corner, weighing in at $99 from e-bay for those that missed them first time around, 21st Century Tiger afficionados.
In the blue corner, weighing in at $99 from e-bay for those that never got a chance, FOV fans.
When I give the signal I want you to come out gluing and grinding. I wanna clean fight, defend yourselves, keep your guns up and remember its all in fun boys! Its toys!
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
In the blue corner, weighing in at $99 from e-bay for those that never got a chance, FOV fans.
When I give the signal I want you to come out gluing and grinding. I wanna clean fight, defend yourselves, keep your guns up and remember its all in fun boys! Its toys!
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Humm - dressed up Tiger - don't kow about that - never thought of putting a dress on a Tiger I - be good for 21st though - could use the "Tickle Me Tolstoy" doll for the dress.
As far as contest - never entered - ain't good enough -
As said before - troops, these are toys not $2,500.00 scale models with 695 parts - so matter what grabs you - be happy. Cause something is better than nothing.
As far as contest - never entered - ain't good enough -
As said before - troops, these are toys not $2,500.00 scale models with 695 parts - so matter what grabs you - be happy. Cause something is better than nothing.
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Dressed up Tigers
These are kinda my idea of a dressed up tiger.
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